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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7229582" data-attributes="member: 6799649">If the general population (generated by 3d6 in order) can get 18s, but the Olympians (created by point-buy) can only get 15s, then point-buy has absolutely failed to model Olympians! Point-buy does relegate you to low mental stats if all your physical stats are high. Unlike rolling or real life where individuals with high physical characteristics are just as likely to have high mental characteristics as anyone else.But we don't have a better point-buy system; we have the one we have.As I posted recently, there are many ways to make rolling more balanced between PCs, but I've yet to see a more realistic point-buy system.Yeah, I agree with all that.......Whoa, whoa, whoa! How did you jump to there? On what basis do you imagine point-buy as being 'better at representing the best of the best', given that experience/training/ASIs etc. are equal in either point-buy or rolling? Point-buy starts with a lower maximum, can only ever equal rolling's high stats (and even then, later than rolling), so how can point-buy be 'better' than rolling at representing the 'best of the best'?</blockquote>