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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7235967" data-attributes="member: 22779">Yup, I can carry 20 more pounds and I have a 1 in 20 chance more of lifting a gate.&nbsp; Like I said, pretty much identical.&nbsp; Particularly when you start comparing to the changes AFTER 14.Basically, you're mixing Metric and Imperial measurements.&nbsp; Models that work in one system don't necessarily give you the same results in another system.&nbsp; As was mentioned earlier, the 3-18 range actually isn't the default in 5e, it's 1-18.&nbsp; There is nothing to indicate that the lowest stat for NPC's isn't 1.Which makes sense, in a way.&nbsp; If the highest end of the range is +5, then, the lowest end of the range should be -5.&nbsp; Which really does throw the whole thing out of whack anyway.Personally, I'm just going to follow the DMG advice and presume that NPC's have no stats.&nbsp; Boom, done, end of problem.I like using the simplest solutions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7235967, member: 22779"] Yup, I can carry 20 more pounds and I have a 1 in 20 chance more of lifting a gate. Like I said, pretty much identical. Particularly when you start comparing to the changes AFTER 14. Basically, you're mixing Metric and Imperial measurements. Models that work in one system don't necessarily give you the same results in another system. As was mentioned earlier, the 3-18 range actually isn't the default in 5e, it's 1-18. There is nothing to indicate that the lowest stat for NPC's isn't 1. Which makes sense, in a way. If the highest end of the range is +5, then, the lowest end of the range should be -5. Which really does throw the whole thing out of whack anyway. Personally, I'm just going to follow the DMG advice and presume that NPC's have no stats. Boom, done, end of problem. I like using the simplest solutions. [/QUOTE]

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