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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 7237815" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Thing is, no, it's not. 3d6 appears nowhere in 5e.</p><p></p><p>Yes, the baseline for normal humans is a score of 10 in all stats. But, the DMG stats, flat out, that NPC'S, unless they are a threat to the PC's (or possibly an ally) DO NOT HAVE STATS. Full stop. End of story. You don't stat out NPC's. You give them descriptors likes "strong" or "pretty" and that's it.</p><p></p><p>The only reason there is an overlap is because 10 happens to be the center point on both scales - either 3-18 or 1-20. Sure, that overlap may have been done intentionally, but, since both scales are so different from each other, it's more just coincidental. "Normal" human may have been generated by 3d6 in 1e, but, again, that's because the scales tell us that any stat between 7 and 14 are, for all intents and purposes, the same. In 5e, that's simply not true. There's a HUGE gap between 7 and 14 in 5e. A +4 difference? In a system where most bonuses are single digit at the most? That's enormous.</p><p></p><p>5e rejects earlier editions flat out by stating, in no uncertain terms, that NPC's DO NOT HAVE STATS. Only NPC's that might engage (either with or against) the PC's need stats at all. Otherwise, they don't.</p><p></p><p>This is completely contrary to AD&D or 3e. It's actually perfectly dovetailing with 4e. </p><p></p><p>Claims that 5e is following an earlier tradition are ignoring the actual text.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 7237815, member: 22779"] Thing is, no, it's not. 3d6 appears nowhere in 5e. Yes, the baseline for normal humans is a score of 10 in all stats. But, the DMG stats, flat out, that NPC'S, unless they are a threat to the PC's (or possibly an ally) DO NOT HAVE STATS. Full stop. End of story. You don't stat out NPC's. You give them descriptors likes "strong" or "pretty" and that's it. The only reason there is an overlap is because 10 happens to be the center point on both scales - either 3-18 or 1-20. Sure, that overlap may have been done intentionally, but, since both scales are so different from each other, it's more just coincidental. "Normal" human may have been generated by 3d6 in 1e, but, again, that's because the scales tell us that any stat between 7 and 14 are, for all intents and purposes, the same. In 5e, that's simply not true. There's a HUGE gap between 7 and 14 in 5e. A +4 difference? In a system where most bonuses are single digit at the most? That's enormous. 5e rejects earlier editions flat out by stating, in no uncertain terms, that NPC's DO NOT HAVE STATS. Only NPC's that might engage (either with or against) the PC's need stats at all. Otherwise, they don't. This is completely contrary to AD&D or 3e. It's actually perfectly dovetailing with 4e. Claims that 5e is following an earlier tradition are ignoring the actual text. [/QUOTE]
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