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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7257814" data-attributes="member: 23751">It meets the definition of fair and fails to meet the definition of unfair, so it's not only not ridiculous, but it's the way it is.I played in a text bases one for decades.  It took them about 20-25 years to finally change the stat rolling program to one where everyone had the same number of points to put into their stats.  It wasn't giant like WoW, but it kept thousands of people hooked and made the owner very wealthy.  Unequal results are an issue that many people don't like, and many people do.  Dislike doesn't mean that it's not fair.  Unfair and unequal are two totally different issues.  You should learn about them.Probably because it's a False Equivalence and rolling is not like that at all.  If you create tosh, you get tosh.Keep your one true way to yourself.  The numbers you end up with don't matter to a great many of people.Bzzzt!  Incorrect by definition.  So long as every player has the same access to pitty and re-rolls, and acceptance of high stats, the method and therefore the results are fair, even if unequal.  Unequal and unfair are two different things.  They only overlap if the inequality is caused by unfairness, which is not the case in D&D.That's a bonus for point buy and array.  A bonus for rolling is that all concepts within the bounds of the game are available to rolling and not point buys or arrays, even if every roll doesn't allow for every concept.  At least rolling can get you to concepts that require a higher starting stat than 16 and/or a lower starting stat than 8.This is not only false, but is provably false and has been proven several times in this thread.  The definitions of fair and unfair don't back up your assertion, but they do back up mine.</blockquote>

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