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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7258598" data-attributes="member: 6799649">It should be noted that neither point-buy nor array are 'fair and equitable' to those who want to play a MAD concept versus those who want to play a SAD concept.If you want to play, say, a charismatic wizard then you can still be as good a wizard as any other in a game that requires point-buy. But if you want to play a charismatic barbarian then you will be a worse barbarian, because you have to take points away from Str/Dex/Con, while the wizard didn't have to take anything away from Int.And yet, 'charismatic wizard' and 'charismatic barbarian' are equally valid concepts. Why is point-buy so unfair to one concept and not the other, when both concepts are equal?The 'fairness' of point-buy, when you examine the characters that result from that method, is illusory. Just like some people claim that rolling is 'fair' because everyone starts with the same number of dice while the detractors say that the results of rolling are 'unfair', some people are claiming that point-buy is 'fair' because everyone starts with the same number of points while disregarding the fact that point-buy discriminates against some classes and concepts, and is 'unfair' in that regard.For both methods, the starting conditions are 'fair' but the results can be 'unfair'. The problem lies with anyone who tries to claim that either method's results are fair, because neither method ensures that the results are fair.</blockquote>

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