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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7259798" data-attributes="member: 6801845">All ability scores we use in D&amp;D are simplified abstractions and only have any real value in relation to other ability scores.With any of the standard systems for generating ability scores for D&amp;D the numbers are constricted.&nbsp; You can't have a 100 strength with any system; point buy merely has a narrower range of possibilities.&nbsp; That does not in and of itself make it more or less realistic.The real fallacy is that the numbers mean anything in the real world or that they could be or need to be realistic.&nbsp; For me, D&amp;D starts out with an action movie reality.&nbsp; I just watched the most recent Fast and Furious movie thanks to netflix (yes, I occasionally enjoy stupid popcorn movies).&nbsp; Is there anyone on the team that would not fit in the 8-16 starting range?&nbsp; Dwayne Johnson is probably what most people think of when they think 20 strength, yet none of his other ability scores would fall more than a little below average as far as I can tell.I don't see a problem with movies like that being a starting point for what my &quot;reality&quot; is; I don't need to force someone to play someone who is mentally or physically handicapped.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7259798, member: 6801845"] All ability scores we use in D&D are simplified abstractions and only have any real value in relation to other ability scores. With any of the standard systems for generating ability scores for D&D the numbers are constricted. You can't have a 100 strength with any system; point buy merely has a narrower range of possibilities. That does not in and of itself make it more or less realistic. The real fallacy is that the numbers mean anything in the real world or that they could be or need to be realistic. For me, D&D starts out with an action movie reality. I just watched the most recent Fast and Furious movie thanks to netflix (yes, I occasionally enjoy stupid popcorn movies). Is there anyone on the team that would not fit in the 8-16 starting range? Dwayne Johnson is probably what most people think of when they think 20 strength, yet none of his other ability scores would fall more than a little below average as far as I can tell. I don't see a problem with movies like that being a starting point for what my "reality" is; I don't need to force someone to play someone who is mentally or physically handicapped. [/QUOTE]

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