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<blockquote data-quote="Arial Black" data-source="post: 7267383" data-attributes="member: 6799649">Since the creatures in the game are described by (among other things, but at a fundamental level) their ability scores, then just because you don't want or need to know what those scores are at that time does not mean that they don't have scores!We can measure a persons height and/or weight. We can use words (tall), numbers (6 feet 6 inches), other numbers (2 metres), or whatever.If we choose not to measure a persons height, they still have a height! That 6-and-a-half foot guy is 6 foot six whether we measure him or not; whether we care or not!In D&amp;D, creatures have ability scores, whether we care what those scores are or not!In real life I don't have an Int score? Maybe; we can judge each other's stats if we want. Villains and Vigilantes (an '80s superhero RPG) had the GM estimate the players stats because their first hero was meant to be the player but with super powers.If we were in the game world then we most definitely would have Int scores! Whether or not the DM cared what those score were.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arial Black, post: 7267383, member: 6799649"] Since the creatures in the game are described by (among other things, but at a fundamental level) their ability scores, then just because you don't want or need to know what those scores are at that time does not mean that they don't [i]have[/i] scores! We can measure a persons height and/or weight. We can use words (tall), numbers (6 feet 6 inches), other numbers (2 metres), or whatever. If we choose not to measure a persons height, they still [i]have[/i] a height! That 6-and-a-half foot guy is 6 foot six whether we measure him or not; whether we [i]care[/i] or not! In D&D, creatures have ability scores, [i]whether we care what those scores are or not![/i] In real life I don't have an Int score? Maybe; we can judge each other's stats if we want. Villains and Vigilantes (an '80s superhero RPG) had the GM estimate the players stats because their first hero was meant to be the player but with super powers. If we were in the game world then we most definitely would have Int scores! Whether or not the DM cared what those score were. [/QUOTE]

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