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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoominT" data-source="post: 7269455" data-attributes="member: 6896683">Ok I read the OP and the first few and then skipped the rest!You can not win, everyone has different feelings and thoughts so point buy in the book is the only way to go! its in the rules so no one can disagree.Personally I hate it, I view it as having a immortal character, I die, scrub out the name put a new one in and hey presto keep going!Depending on which group I play with we use the following optionsGroup 1) point buyGroup 2) everyone gets a 18 and rolls 4d6 drops the lowest 5 times and assigns as you like.Group 3) make up your own stats!All are full of good friends and all enjoyable games to play but my group 3 friends create the best and most exciting diverse characters. But you could say we are all A**holes because whenever a new player turns up and makes a mega character, its all you go in first your so hard, you open the door you so awesome, you do not need that item you already so tough, the message soon gets through.</blockquote>