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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7272243" data-attributes="member: 996">Well, pre-racial.  More practically, the full range of PC stats is up to 20, since you can get there, eventually - and you can get there with either of the systems in the PH.You can also pick a die-rolling mechanic or a point-buy formula to allow different ranges or distributions - Lan has again mentioned 5d4-2, for instance, RQ used 2d6+6 or 2d6+3 for some stats for some races, among others.   Range of stats is not an attribute that differentiates methodologies in general, only specific implementations of them.  In 5e, the standard array delivers 8-15, as does point buy, and random whatever you roll - but all of them can get you to 20 in the course of the campaign thanks to ASIs, so the upper limit is moot.  As to the lower limit, crappy rolled characters tend to get re-rolled... Realism or V-tude or whatever, it kinda is, for the same reason that choosing race & background is less 'realistic' than generating them randomly.  Because it's mostly outside the character's control - mostly, choices made in life might effect how strong vs how well-read you are, for instance, though that could all be pushed to proficiency in skills if you wanted to conceive of them that way...</blockquote>