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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7274887" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>What?!?!? Point buy is more meaningful in setting your power level, not less. You can literally point buy 3 15's in the exact stats you need for your class and concept. The odds of getting 3 15's or better when rolling is much lower than the 100% of point buy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We've been talking about rolling, point buy and array with respect to world build(general population) for the entire time. So yes, when you moved the goalposts to stances, I moved them back.</p><p></p><p>There's no other method it could be referring to. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First, it's false to say that it only gives a system for rolling the scores of adventurers. The method in the PHB is not only for adventurers and that fact proves your statement false. Second, 5e is meant to be a flexible edition, but it cannot expect people to go to other editions to answer questions it creates. That's design of such incredible crappiness, that my 4 year old could do better. An edition has to be playable in and of itself or it's junk. For 5e to be playable in and of itself, it has to answer the question of what rolling means when the DMG talks about it in the NPC section. The ONLY answer 5e gives is 4d6-L in the PHB.</p><p></p><p>No. It's because the primary focus of the PHB is players who make adventurers, so the language speaks to them. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're playing games here. The words "paramount importance" are irrelevant to my point and focusing on them is an evasion. You've been claiming that anything the PHB does that talks about adventurers, is for adventurers and not commoners. The equipment section, important or not, is for adventurers, so according to your argument, nothing in that section is for use by commoners.</p><p></p><p>You realize that you're arguing that the DM and all his NPCs(other than adventurers) and creatures have no access to anything in the PHB, right? There's no citation that says he can do that. Nevermind, the the monster manual is full of creatures using equipment that is adventurer only. Nevermind that monsters are using spells, despite PHB language saying that they are for classes. </p><p></p><p>It's abundantly clear from the way other books access everything in the PHB, that it's a fact that everything in the PHB is not just for players or adventurers. But by all means, keep harping on "citations".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7274887, member: 23751"] What?!?!? Point buy is more meaningful in setting your power level, not less. You can literally point buy 3 15's in the exact stats you need for your class and concept. The odds of getting 3 15's or better when rolling is much lower than the 100% of point buy. We've been talking about rolling, point buy and array with respect to world build(general population) for the entire time. So yes, when you moved the goalposts to stances, I moved them back. There's no other method it could be referring to. First, it's false to say that it only gives a system for rolling the scores of adventurers. The method in the PHB is not only for adventurers and that fact proves your statement false. Second, 5e is meant to be a flexible edition, but it cannot expect people to go to other editions to answer questions it creates. That's design of such incredible crappiness, that my 4 year old could do better. An edition has to be playable in and of itself or it's junk. For 5e to be playable in and of itself, it has to answer the question of what rolling means when the DMG talks about it in the NPC section. The ONLY answer 5e gives is 4d6-L in the PHB. No. It's because the primary focus of the PHB is players who make adventurers, so the language speaks to them. You're playing games here. The words "paramount importance" are irrelevant to my point and focusing on them is an evasion. You've been claiming that anything the PHB does that talks about adventurers, is for adventurers and not commoners. The equipment section, important or not, is for adventurers, so according to your argument, nothing in that section is for use by commoners. You realize that you're arguing that the DM and all his NPCs(other than adventurers) and creatures have no access to anything in the PHB, right? There's no citation that says he can do that. Nevermind, the the monster manual is full of creatures using equipment that is adventurer only. Nevermind that monsters are using spells, despite PHB language saying that they are for classes. It's abundantly clear from the way other books access everything in the PHB, that it's a fact that everything in the PHB is not just for players or adventurers. But by all means, keep harping on "citations". [/QUOTE]
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