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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7274939" data-attributes="member: 6787503">Those three 15's are offset by the three 8's you're forced to take along with them, making all choices available through point-buy theoretically equivalent. You may disagree, but I think that's the intent behind the system, not that everyone is going to pick the one, most optimal option. Also, it's only 100% if you choose them, a choice which is available to anyone else who's also using point-buy, remembering there are 64 other arrays available.We've also been talking about player decision-making vs. randomness, but you don't seem inclined to address either of my arguments, so I'll move on.Of course there is! There are many other methods for rolling ability scores (some of them have been talked about in this thread), and there is no constraint placed on the DM to use any one of them, or prohibition against devising new ones. 5e is a game which gives the DM full latitude. This should be assumed and kept in mind in specific cases when it isn't stated directly.Citation?I'm sorry you're so dissatisfied with the current edition. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Well, then you've failed to understand the context of what it is you've posted.I've made no such claim. I think it's clear, though, that adventurers are not commoners, and commoners are not adventurers.No, I'm not.You asked me to cite "rules" to support my claim that step 3, along with the other steps in Chapter 1, is specifically intended for the creation of adventurers. I've done that. You, on the other hand, are unable to provide a shred of textual evidence that supports the claim that any NPC that has rolled ability scores is meant to have its scores rolled by the method given in step 3. I'm using campaign the same way the PHB uses the word, i.e. "an ongoing story". A campaign can span generations of PC groups and multiple settings. Or you could have multiple campaigns that take place in the same setting. Anyway, I haven't misused the word, and I know what I mean by it.My point is that point-buy has no bearing on the distribution of scores in any characters other than those who are created using it. And of course some PCs could be created using point-buy and some using dice-rolling. Why not?</blockquote>

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