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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 2915844" data-attributes="member: 9037">I have read these complaints as well and I have often wondered if it is just the stats that are the problem. It could also be that they have to much magic for their level or they have allowed to much cherry picking of classes and PRCs and the characters have way out of this world saves and bonuses. I have been playing for a long time and I have never once seen a problem simply because the party had higher than 28 points stats be the problem.As for the different in stats causing the DM to throw stuff of a higher CR to challenge the higher stated PC I have also never seen that what I have seen is the DM having to throw higher CR threats to challange the tricked out min/maxed PC with more than one PRCs. In one of these games I had the highest stats and was  playing a human cleric and I could not even come close to keeping up with the others who had all these weird races, multiclasses and PRCs.I can see how if you have one or more players with high stats and then some with low stats there can be a real problem with stat envy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />   One of our DMs solved this by giving extra feats to the players with the lower stats and it worked out fine the game lasted close to two and half years playing weekly.Personally I really hate point buy it seems to make cookie cutter characters you see all the fighters , wizards whatever built the same way. I also think it takes away the possibailty of one day rolling the super above average character which I think everyone should get to play at least once. I know my friend who rollled what would be a 58 point buy paladin loved this character I think it was one of his favorites.   Though high stats are not everything my all time character favorite character worked out to be about 27 points. I have also found that stats you rolled are not as important as you level and start getting magic items and spells that improve stats.I have to wonder if DMs who use a low point buy to control the power level of the game also limit magic items and spells that raise stats?</blockquote>

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