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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nonlethal Force" data-source="post: 2916964" data-attributes="member: 35788">I have grown to love the 32 point-buy.I always feel dissappointed with a dice roll because the very next time expenditure is the macho argument of "whose stats are biggest."  I hate that.  With a point buy, if your stats are lower its the way you chose them.  I find there is much less arguing and better player appreciation of their characters with a point buy.  From my perspective, the game is about player happiness not "sticking to a system" so I go with what makes 'em happy (with a reasonable cap, too.).I used to use a system that was similar to one spoken of earlier in this thread: The sum of your ability scores must be 86, no score is above 18 before racial modifiers are applied.  This typically lead to scores like: 18, 16, 16, 14, 12, 10.  I found players really liked that system.  Then I met a guy that I agreed to play with who wanted to play a character with: 18, 18, 18, 18, 8, 3, 3.  He was adamant and would not budge.  While legal, I think we can all see how such a character is not a real representation of any person - even a hero.  I later learned that this guy was an all around jerk and only played to kill things and jerk the DM around by whining when 3rd party munchkin sources weren't allowed.  I should've never let him in in the first place...To the person that asked a few pages ago, I found the stat generation system of adding up all the scores to go a total of 80-86 very satisfying as long as you add in the following two rules: no stat above 18 before racial mods and no stat below 8 before racial mods.  If you don't add those rules in it allows for mathematical abuse.  If you do add those rules in you might as well go with a 32 or 36 point buy.  I ultimately chose a 32 point buy because it is much more easily understood than "Add 'em up to get ____ ."</blockquote>

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