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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arlough" data-source="post: 5530141" data-attributes="member: 79335">Sorry, copy/paste fail on my part.Originally the * was "If they wish, they can spend a Daily attack power to prevent the loss of 2 surges." and was supposed to be on all of them.This is where using skills gives you bonuses to the d20 roll.  So, if you are in a level 7 zone, and your party sneaks through with a successful group stealth check, you would get a bonus to the roll (maybe 2) making it so that even if you roll a 1, the total of the roll plus sneak modifier is 3, therefore only 1d4-1 surges lost instead of 1d4.Of course, you can also get penalties to the roll.  For example, if you are in a hostile land, that happens to be flat and featureless dry lake bed, you are much more likely to be spotted and targeted, so that would give you a -2 to the check.I have also, now, come to the conclusion that many small adjustments need to be made.  Some to clarify, some to balance, and some just to achieve a higher level of standardization of terms and values.  In this vein, I will actually formalize the system as it stands in a document and post it here shortly in PDF format.As I am working on this, though, I would like some help gathering info so I can not just balance everything to be fair, but more importantly to be fun.So, if I can get some data from you guys...I have become aware that my players seem to value just about everything over surges.  In fact, I would now wager that all but two of my latest group would even value 5 hp over 1 surge.  And those two are the most experienced.But, I wonder if this is a common theme, or if it is just that I haven't forced them to really value those surges yet.So, could anyone give me some feedback on what their group values more?  Basically, could you order this list from 1 - 6 with 1 being the most valuable and 6 being the least valuable to your players as per their actions.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Daily Attack Powers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Daily Item Powers</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Action Points</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Healing Surges</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">HP</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">other things I haven't thought of yet</li> </ul>I know that if I actually ask "Do you think it is worth it to spend a surge to get back 5 hit points?" my group will almost universally say "No." but I also know that they will sometimes do just that unless it is questioned.</blockquote>

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