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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LiquidBlue" data-source="post: 3089462" data-attributes="member: 40911">I was going to include another DC, one which represents the extraction of the appropriate poison's from the wild -- either locating the plant or extracting the poison from a slain creature. I simply decided not to because I didn't want to overload the proposal.For animal poisons maybe it could be a flat DC to immediately poison a weapon - say DC 20. While preserving a poison would require a poison makers kit to collect the poison, then a craft check at the given DC to convert the collected poison into a usuable form.Plants are a little trickier. Not only would the DC be dependent on environment, but it would probably require much work. I don't think it would be wise to let a PC make a check that represents a single days searching, and come away with materials that are worth hundreds of gps.Perhaps the collection of raw plant poisons could be handled like a craft check, but using a survival check (5 ranks of knowledge(nature) would add a +2 synergy bonus, casting detect plants would add a +10 competence bonus). This way PCs could use craft points to search for plant poison materials out of adventure.</blockquote>