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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4449799" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Consider a character who is the subject of Mordenkainen's Disjunction. He must roll Will Saves for all his miagic items (using the item's bonus or his own, whichever is higher).</p><p></p><p>Assume his Cloak of Resistance is one of the items disjoined, thus lowering his Will Save bonus.</p><p></p><p>Let's say he has three magic items.</p><p></p><p>As I read it, it doesn't matter what order he rolls his saving throws for the items; they are all being disjoined at the same time, and he could roll 3d20, or he could roll 1d20 three times; all he is doing is generating results for the three items, and those results all happen simultaneously.</p><p></p><p>If we assume that the magic items save sequentially, though, then there's a difference between rolling for the cloak first, and rolling for the cloak last; losing the cloak will reduce his bonus for any subsequent Will Saves.</p><p></p><p>But I see no reason to assume that the magic items save one-after-the-other. The spell is instantaneous; all the items either save or fail at the same time, and so the cloak's bonus should apply to all three saves.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4449799, member: 1656"] Consider a character who is the subject of Mordenkainen's Disjunction. He must roll Will Saves for all his miagic items (using the item's bonus or his own, whichever is higher). Assume his Cloak of Resistance is one of the items disjoined, thus lowering his Will Save bonus. Let's say he has three magic items. As I read it, it doesn't matter what order he rolls his saving throws for the items; they are all being disjoined at the same time, and he could roll 3d20, or he could roll 1d20 three times; all he is doing is generating results for the three items, and those results all happen simultaneously. If we assume that the magic items save sequentially, though, then there's a difference between rolling for the cloak first, and rolling for the cloak last; losing the cloak will reduce his bonus for any subsequent Will Saves. But I see no reason to assume that the magic items save one-after-the-other. The spell is instantaneous; all the items either save or fail at the same time, and so the cloak's bonus should apply to all three saves. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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