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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 676272" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Can you move?</p><p>Can you stay up on your feet?</p><p>Can you make a somatic component gesture?</p><p></p><p>Clearly No.</p><p></p><p>Can you think?</p><p>Can you see?</p><p>Can you cast a spell with no components?</p><p></p><p>Clearly Yes.</p><p></p><p>Can you speak?</p><p>Can you move your eyes?</p><p>Can you breathe?</p><p></p><p>Clearly Boh. They all require some functionality of the muscles, but I guess nobody is ever going to rule you can't breathe in this case. Anyway, from SRD:</p><p></p><p><strong>A character with Strength 0 falls to the ground and is helpless. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Helpless</strong></p><p><strong>Bound, held, sleeping, paralyzed, or unconscious characters are helpless. Enemies can make advantageous attacks against helpless characters, or even deliver a usually lethal coup de grace.</strong></p><p><strong>A melee attack against a helpless character is at a +4 bonus on the attack roll (equivalent to attacking a prone target). A ranged attack gets no special bonus. A helpless defender can't use any Dexterity bonus to AC. In fact, his Dexterity score is treated as if it were 0 and his Dexterity modifier to AC were -5 (and a rogue can sneak attack him).</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>A character with Dexterity 0 is paralyzed. </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Paralyzed</strong></p><p><strong>A paralyzed character stands rigid and helpless, unable to move or act physically. He has effective Strength and Dexterity scores of 0 but may take purely mental actions.</strong></p><p></p><p>Str 0 -> Helpless -> Dex (treated as) 0</p><p>Dex 0 -> Paralyzed -> Str (treated as) 0</p><p></p><p>The problem here is the following:</p><p>from the SRD, if you are helpless, your Dex <em>is treated as 0</em>, but you are not necessarily <em>paralyzed</em> (your Dex is NOT 0, just treated as...); otherwise, if you were really paralyzed, you could take only mental action even when you're helpless because you are bound, which obviously does not imply you can't talk.</p><p></p><p>I wonder if the PHB has a better explanation. In the end it seems that Str 0 and Dex 0 should be quite the same (and the latter specifically says you can only take mental actions), but I couldn't disagree if a DM decides that you can speak when Str 0.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 676272, member: 1465"] Can you move? Can you stay up on your feet? Can you make a somatic component gesture? Clearly No. Can you think? Can you see? Can you cast a spell with no components? Clearly Yes. Can you speak? Can you move your eyes? Can you breathe? Clearly Boh. They all require some functionality of the muscles, but I guess nobody is ever going to rule you can't breathe in this case. Anyway, from SRD: [B]A character with Strength 0 falls to the ground and is helpless. Helpless Bound, held, sleeping, paralyzed, or unconscious characters are helpless. Enemies can make advantageous attacks against helpless characters, or even deliver a usually lethal coup de grace. A melee attack against a helpless character is at a +4 bonus on the attack roll (equivalent to attacking a prone target). A ranged attack gets no special bonus. A helpless defender can't use any Dexterity bonus to AC. In fact, his Dexterity score is treated as if it were 0 and his Dexterity modifier to AC were -5 (and a rogue can sneak attack him). A character with Dexterity 0 is paralyzed. Paralyzed A paralyzed character stands rigid and helpless, unable to move or act physically. He has effective Strength and Dexterity scores of 0 but may take purely mental actions.[/B] Str 0 -> Helpless -> Dex (treated as) 0 Dex 0 -> Paralyzed -> Str (treated as) 0 The problem here is the following: from the SRD, if you are helpless, your Dex [I]is treated as 0[/I], but you are not necessarily [I]paralyzed[/I] (your Dex is NOT 0, just treated as...); otherwise, if you were really paralyzed, you could take only mental action even when you're helpless because you are bound, which obviously does not imply you can't talk. I wonder if the PHB has a better explanation. In the end it seems that Str 0 and Dex 0 should be quite the same (and the latter specifically says you can only take mental actions), but I couldn't disagree if a DM decides that you can speak when Str 0. [/QUOTE]
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