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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silverblade The Ench" data-source="post: 4286279" data-attributes="member: 19083">Personally I think Pit Fiend venom *POISON VIAL* as we have here, should not be considered to be the same as that of the actual pit fiend sting.This is a distilled essence highly purified, mega-bloody-nasty alchemical distilation. Hence the cost. Probably requires actual stinger from a pit fiend, thus the cost (needs a dead pit fiend, how much does that cost, eh? hehe)Give this poison a -5 save, and a Weakened, permanently, until cured effect (and that would require Cleric power "Purify" or the like as there's no Neutralize Poison in 4th ed).So it should be renamed "Pit Fiend Sting Extract"And make the normal poison from a Pit Fiend, using the current damage as it is in the DMG, cost only 1/10th the amount.Problem solved? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />PS, for 3rd ed, I always increased poisons' DC at higher level, based on rough logic and appropriateness.</blockquote>