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<blockquote data-quote="ComradeGnull" data-source="post: 5995348" data-attributes="member: 6685694"><p>Given that the splinter faction is LG, they will be very receptive and interested in allegations of rule-breaking, or indications that there is an existing tradition or history that should resolve the issue. The Church of Pelor must have enemies- and those enemies might find a way to present radical elements within the LG faction with evidence that there is some sort of Pelor-ordained order that is being violated- a forged copy of an ancient book or proclamation establishing that Pelor's representatives in the Prime Material had previously ordained that the church should be more organized and centralized. As a LG faction, the LG Pelorites would be unlikely to try to initiate a new, radical re-org, but could easily be convinced that they were 'bringing back' an early form of the church that had fallen into decay. </p><p></p><p>(This is the way that real reform movements in religious groups almost always work- they claim they are 're-discovering' something or 'returning to their roots')</p><p></p><p>This gives the Pope a clear rationale for why he would want to bring everything under his control, while still remaining a good guy. As the protector of the divine law of Pelor, he has no choice but to attempt to uphold the divine commandments that he has been given. His faction is 100% convinced that what they think they are trying to do is restore an earlier order that collapsed during a degenerate era- they are being conservative and orderly, not radical and rebellious.</p><p></p><p>As a LG guy, the Pope can focus his maneuvering on the tenets of the church and accord with history- maybe he is an expert on earlier history, and so truly believes that the church used to be more centralized and Lawful. He's going to bring up any incidents of the NG church helping non-Lawful beings (healing bandits, renegades, and criminals and other compassionate acts that don't end with the offender facing justice) and point out that they are potentially harming innocents by taking a soft stand with the outside world. If there is some legitimate threat that some NG temples have fallen out of favor with Pelor or have become corrupt, that bolsters his argument.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, the players can focus on trying to prove/disprove the historical evidence for the 'commandments' the LG guys are so excited about- tracking down who gave what to who, who it came from, trying to trace it back to its origin. Maybe the person who forged it sends the players on a wild goose chase to some ancient temple (now conveniently infested with baddies) that he claims was the source of the documents he gave to the LG faction- but instead they find something that says just the opposite, or evidence that the forgery is a fake.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ComradeGnull, post: 5995348, member: 6685694"] Given that the splinter faction is LG, they will be very receptive and interested in allegations of rule-breaking, or indications that there is an existing tradition or history that should resolve the issue. The Church of Pelor must have enemies- and those enemies might find a way to present radical elements within the LG faction with evidence that there is some sort of Pelor-ordained order that is being violated- a forged copy of an ancient book or proclamation establishing that Pelor's representatives in the Prime Material had previously ordained that the church should be more organized and centralized. As a LG faction, the LG Pelorites would be unlikely to try to initiate a new, radical re-org, but could easily be convinced that they were 'bringing back' an early form of the church that had fallen into decay. (This is the way that real reform movements in religious groups almost always work- they claim they are 're-discovering' something or 'returning to their roots') This gives the Pope a clear rationale for why he would want to bring everything under his control, while still remaining a good guy. As the protector of the divine law of Pelor, he has no choice but to attempt to uphold the divine commandments that he has been given. His faction is 100% convinced that what they think they are trying to do is restore an earlier order that collapsed during a degenerate era- they are being conservative and orderly, not radical and rebellious. As a LG guy, the Pope can focus his maneuvering on the tenets of the church and accord with history- maybe he is an expert on earlier history, and so truly believes that the church used to be more centralized and Lawful. He's going to bring up any incidents of the NG church helping non-Lawful beings (healing bandits, renegades, and criminals and other compassionate acts that don't end with the offender facing justice) and point out that they are potentially harming innocents by taking a soft stand with the outside world. If there is some legitimate threat that some NG temples have fallen out of favor with Pelor or have become corrupt, that bolsters his argument. Meanwhile, the players can focus on trying to prove/disprove the historical evidence for the 'commandments' the LG guys are so excited about- tracking down who gave what to who, who it came from, trying to trace it back to its origin. Maybe the person who forged it sends the players on a wild goose chase to some ancient temple (now conveniently infested with baddies) that he claims was the source of the documents he gave to the LG faction- but instead they find something that says just the opposite, or evidence that the forgery is a fake. [/QUOTE]
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