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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 1423310" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>Folks seem to be forgetting the comment I was replying to... Allow me to remind you all:</p><p> </p><p>I'm not saying (nor, to my knowledge, has <em>anyone</em> said) that having high magic makes for poorer gaming ability. What I'm saying is that a player that views low magic as having fewer options and forcing predictability <em>is</em> a problem with the player.</p><p> </p><p>1. He fails to realize that a lack of magic often creates <em>more</em> options; i.e., options that weren't viable alongside high magic are now viable due to the reduction or absence of magic.</p><p> </p><p>2. By not having lots of magic before him, the player is incapable of conceiving more than a few options during a scenario or encounter and thus has become predictable due to his own failings.</p><p> </p><p>Blaming these on the GM is simply denying that the player is dependant on magic and is unable to perform without it...</p><p> </p><p>(Insert witty comparison of magic to Viagra here.)</p><p> </p><p>At any rate, I have sat at a table, as a player, in a low magic game, under a brilliant GM, and have had to suffer through the (thankfully temporary) company of a player that <em>constantly</em> complained about the "lack of options" available. Granted, it was a 2E game, but I don't see how options are very limited when you have 30+ races, nearly a dozen classes, and over 100 Kits (and the GM was more than happy to create new Kits for the appropriate concept). They guy was simply whining, and there were five <em>very</em> happy people the day he called to say he was dropping out of the game (and while he never stated so directly, I'm sure the GM was relieved as well).</p><p> </p><p>Which is probably why I respond to posts like the above the way I do; I <em>know</em> what it's like to have someone with that kind of attitude at a gaming table and they <em>are</em> a disruption to the flow and enjoyment of the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 1423310, member: 6398"] Folks seem to be forgetting the comment I was replying to... Allow me to remind you all: I'm not saying (nor, to my knowledge, has [i]anyone[/i] said) that having high magic makes for poorer gaming ability. What I'm saying is that a player that views low magic as having fewer options and forcing predictability [i]is[/i] a problem with the player. 1. He fails to realize that a lack of magic often creates [i]more[/i] options; i.e., options that weren't viable alongside high magic are now viable due to the reduction or absence of magic. 2. By not having lots of magic before him, the player is incapable of conceiving more than a few options during a scenario or encounter and thus has become predictable due to his own failings. Blaming these on the GM is simply denying that the player is dependant on magic and is unable to perform without it... (Insert witty comparison of magic to Viagra here.) At any rate, I have sat at a table, as a player, in a low magic game, under a brilliant GM, and have had to suffer through the (thankfully temporary) company of a player that [i]constantly[/i] complained about the "lack of options" available. Granted, it was a 2E game, but I don't see how options are very limited when you have 30+ races, nearly a dozen classes, and over 100 Kits (and the GM was more than happy to create new Kits for the appropriate concept). They guy was simply whining, and there were five [i]very[/i] happy people the day he called to say he was dropping out of the game (and while he never stated so directly, I'm sure the GM was relieved as well). Which is probably why I respond to posts like the above the way I do; I [i]know[/i] what it's like to have someone with that kind of attitude at a gaming table and they [i]are[/i] a disruption to the flow and enjoyment of the game. [/QUOTE]
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