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<blockquote data-quote="Ohillion" data-source="post: 7190252" data-attributes="member: 6798304"><p>I've read the replies here and it seems fairly split on those that like the 5e bard and those that don't. I love the 5e bard and, especially, the magical secrets. THIS is what makes a bard. Poaching other casters spells isn't a malevolent intention. It's a happenstance. The bard, finding a dusty tome at the bottom of a stack of old brick a brack decides to read it and gleans the knowledge that's inside. A warlock once wrote that they tapped into their power by invoking the name of Beeblebrox (or whatever). And LO! The bard says the name of this ancient being and makes it aware of the bard's presence...for better or for worse!</p><p>Also, the class already has entertainer built in so why restrict the bard to having that as a background. I've seen that discussed here. A musician can come from all walks of life. It just so happens that this bard is taking up an instrument or acting or storytelling and making it the path through which they're able to tap into magic. A sorcerer isn't very different than this. They may be born to their magic but they shouldn't have to be restricted to, say, an outcast as a background.</p><p>The one thing that makes the bard a challenge to play are all the concentration spells. This makes sense when you think that a bard has to 'sing' their magic. If the bard casts a new spell (breaks concentration on the previous one) and begins to sing a new song, then you've got to keep on with that song or lose the spell. I know you all know the mechanics, but after having played the Bard, I've been a tad frustrated with this. The only reason a bard would want to poach spells is to have a few more instant cast spells that don't need concentration.</p><p>That's my .02. I like the class as it is and love how it multiclasses as well. If you don't want your wizard to be out-cast or out-classed, then choose bard and call him a storytelling wizard.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ohillion, post: 7190252, member: 6798304"] I've read the replies here and it seems fairly split on those that like the 5e bard and those that don't. I love the 5e bard and, especially, the magical secrets. THIS is what makes a bard. Poaching other casters spells isn't a malevolent intention. It's a happenstance. The bard, finding a dusty tome at the bottom of a stack of old brick a brack decides to read it and gleans the knowledge that's inside. A warlock once wrote that they tapped into their power by invoking the name of Beeblebrox (or whatever). And LO! The bard says the name of this ancient being and makes it aware of the bard's presence...for better or for worse! Also, the class already has entertainer built in so why restrict the bard to having that as a background. I've seen that discussed here. A musician can come from all walks of life. It just so happens that this bard is taking up an instrument or acting or storytelling and making it the path through which they're able to tap into magic. A sorcerer isn't very different than this. They may be born to their magic but they shouldn't have to be restricted to, say, an outcast as a background. The one thing that makes the bard a challenge to play are all the concentration spells. This makes sense when you think that a bard has to 'sing' their magic. If the bard casts a new spell (breaks concentration on the previous one) and begins to sing a new song, then you've got to keep on with that song or lose the spell. I know you all know the mechanics, but after having played the Bard, I've been a tad frustrated with this. The only reason a bard would want to poach spells is to have a few more instant cast spells that don't need concentration. That's my .02. I like the class as it is and love how it multiclasses as well. If you don't want your wizard to be out-cast or out-classed, then choose bard and call him a storytelling wizard. [/QUOTE]
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