Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Million Dollar TTRPG Crowdfunders
Most Anticipated Tabletop RPGs Of The Year
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
[Poll] Cleric Satisfaction Survey
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Jefe Bergenstein" data-source="post: 7192387" data-attributes="member: 31506"><p>Man, you must really hate clerics lol. Your suggestions would basically neuter them to a low AC, no damage healbot with less utility than a bard/wizard/fun caster. You can't actually keep anyone up with the piddly combat heals, and thanks to whack a mole healing, you're better off just letting them go to 0 hp and just focus down the enemy faster until then. Basically all buffs requiring concentration, so you're limited in that department as well. </p><p></p><p>The reason Life clerics have armor is because they would be in the thick of it. Cure Wounds and Lesser Restoration are touch spells. Protection from Energy/Good//Evil, etc are touch. Bless is 30 feet, which means you're basically in someone's melee range on their turn. Besides, the game has too many no/lightly armored full casters as is. Armor and a martial bent help define the cleric class. </p><p></p><p>Their main issue is they have a pretty lame spell list, so the few good spells on the list (Hold Person, Spiritual Guardians, Banishment etc) tend to get trotted out more than other classes who have a more interesting spell list. It's not like you're casting Control Water or Meld into Stone a ton.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jefe Bergenstein, post: 7192387, member: 31506"] Man, you must really hate clerics lol. Your suggestions would basically neuter them to a low AC, no damage healbot with less utility than a bard/wizard/fun caster. You can't actually keep anyone up with the piddly combat heals, and thanks to whack a mole healing, you're better off just letting them go to 0 hp and just focus down the enemy faster until then. Basically all buffs requiring concentration, so you're limited in that department as well. The reason Life clerics have armor is because they would be in the thick of it. Cure Wounds and Lesser Restoration are touch spells. Protection from Energy/Good//Evil, etc are touch. Bless is 30 feet, which means you're basically in someone's melee range on their turn. Besides, the game has too many no/lightly armored full casters as is. Armor and a martial bent help define the cleric class. Their main issue is they have a pretty lame spell list, so the few good spells on the list (Hold Person, Spiritual Guardians, Banishment etc) tend to get trotted out more than other classes who have a more interesting spell list. It's not like you're casting Control Water or Meld into Stone a ton. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
[Poll] Cleric Satisfaction Survey
Top