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<blockquote data-quote="GVDammerung" data-source="post: 3748486" data-attributes="member: 33060"><p>Let's see.</p><p></p><p>PaizoHawk dead as of September 2007. Check.</p><p></p><p>Default Greyhawk dead as of the May 2008 release of 4E. Check.</p><p></p><p>Living Greyhawk dead at Origins 2008. Check.</p><p></p><p>No more GH products sheduled to be released by Wotc. Check.</p><p></p><p>No license for GH at present nor any encouragement in this line. Check.</p><p></p><p>So. Greyhawk is presently dying and will be officially dead come Origins 2008.</p><p></p><p>"Oh but wait! There will be support for Greyhawk in EDungeon and EDragon! Doesn't that count?" No; it does not count.</p><p></p><p>EDungeon and EDragon are too ephemeral to count as any kind of support. They are more akin to poking a dead body with a stick and making the corpse "move." In the same way that all the efforts of Living Greyhawk are/were not "canon" to Greyhawk nothing electronically displayed in EDungeon or EDragon will be canon either. In both cases, the medium was/is too ephemeral and limited in its distribution. If there be doubt as to this proposition one need only contrast EDungeon and EDragon "support" with the support given Eberron and the Realms - notice any difference? And THAT difference is actual support versus pretended support. Don't accept any substitutes or take any wooden nickels.</p><p></p><p>Soooo. Greyhawk is an officially dead setting come Origins 2008. And that is not necesarily a Bad Thing. The Default, PaizoHawk and Living Greyhawk have taken Greyhawk in different directions simultaneously. IMO, Greyhawk can only benefit from a few years time out to take a breather and see where the fanbase is at that time. The biggest question in my mind is - were the Living Greyhawk participants fair weather "fans" who will now jump in mass to Living Forgotten Realms and forget about Greyhawk or did they truly have/develop a lasting appreciation for Greyhawk? Time will tell and THAT answer will say much, IMO, about GH's future viability.</p><p></p><p>YMMV</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GVDammerung, post: 3748486, member: 33060"] Let's see. PaizoHawk dead as of September 2007. Check. Default Greyhawk dead as of the May 2008 release of 4E. Check. Living Greyhawk dead at Origins 2008. Check. No more GH products sheduled to be released by Wotc. Check. No license for GH at present nor any encouragement in this line. Check. So. Greyhawk is presently dying and will be officially dead come Origins 2008. "Oh but wait! There will be support for Greyhawk in EDungeon and EDragon! Doesn't that count?" No; it does not count. EDungeon and EDragon are too ephemeral to count as any kind of support. They are more akin to poking a dead body with a stick and making the corpse "move." In the same way that all the efforts of Living Greyhawk are/were not "canon" to Greyhawk nothing electronically displayed in EDungeon or EDragon will be canon either. In both cases, the medium was/is too ephemeral and limited in its distribution. If there be doubt as to this proposition one need only contrast EDungeon and EDragon "support" with the support given Eberron and the Realms - notice any difference? And THAT difference is actual support versus pretended support. Don't accept any substitutes or take any wooden nickels. Soooo. Greyhawk is an officially dead setting come Origins 2008. And that is not necesarily a Bad Thing. The Default, PaizoHawk and Living Greyhawk have taken Greyhawk in different directions simultaneously. IMO, Greyhawk can only benefit from a few years time out to take a breather and see where the fanbase is at that time. The biggest question in my mind is - were the Living Greyhawk participants fair weather "fans" who will now jump in mass to Living Forgotten Realms and forget about Greyhawk or did they truly have/develop a lasting appreciation for Greyhawk? Time will tell and THAT answer will say much, IMO, about GH's future viability. YMMV [/QUOTE]
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