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<blockquote data-quote="Virago" data-source="post: 28092" data-attributes="member: 2045">AGGEMAM, you're officially a silly-head! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />I'll note only one of your sillinesses:rule of thumb - rule of D&amp;D - call it what you will. It still a rule. Except the rule you quoted (&quot;if your entire movement for the round is 5' ...&quot;) pertains to receiving AoOs, and in no way speaks towards how many 5' steps you may or may not receive.&nbsp; There's nothing in this rule that says you cannot take twelve 5' steps per round -- all it says that if you take only one (and don't otherwise move) you provoke no AoO.And I'll further note that you even applied this quote incorrectly.The fact is, that the restriction of 5' steps and other movement for the round being mutually exclusive only occurs within the context of the MEA.&nbsp; You can't find a quote in the PHB that proves otherwise, just like you can't find a quote that says that unarmed characters do not threaten.This is due to the fact that these rules are not present, to the best of many people's knowledge.That word *typically*, always stand for 'exceptions noted'.And the only exception noted appears in reference to MEAs.I think Caliban is on your side anyway.&nbsp; He's saying (1) That exception is probably meant to be general, and (2) It's put in the MEA section not because it applies only to MEAs, but because in the general non-hasted way of things, it can only apply to MEAs.The question left open is just how much else is also phrased generally because not much thought went into the state of affairs created by haste, or was perhaps even ignored in the interest of (relative <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />) clarity.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Virago, post: 28092, member: 2045"] AGGEMAM, you're officially a silly-head! :p I'll note only one of your sillinesses: [b]rule of thumb - rule of D&D - call it what you will. It still a rule. [/b] Except the rule you quoted ("if your entire movement for the round is 5' ...") pertains to receiving AoOs, and in no way speaks towards how many 5' steps you may or may not receive. There's nothing in this rule that says you cannot take twelve 5' steps per round -- all it says that if you take only one (and don't otherwise move) you provoke no AoO. And I'll further note that you even applied this quote incorrectly. The fact is, that the restriction of 5' steps and other movement for the round being mutually exclusive [b]only[/b] occurs within the context of the MEA. You [b]can't[/b] find a quote in the PHB that proves otherwise, just like you can't find a quote that says that unarmed characters do not threaten. This is due to the fact that these rules are not present, to the best of many people's knowledge. [b]That word *typically*, always stand for 'exceptions noted'.[/b] And the only exception noted appears in reference to MEAs. I think Caliban is on your side anyway. He's saying (1) That exception is probably meant to be general, and (2) It's put in the MEA section not because it applies only to MEAs, but because in the general non-[i]hasted[/i] way of things, it can [b]only[/b] apply to MEAs. The question left open is just how much else is also phrased generally because not much thought went into the state of affairs created by [i]haste[/i], or was perhaps even ignored in the interest of (relative ;)) clarity. [/QUOTE]

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