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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 28142" data-attributes="member: 2011">What does the &quot;enemies do not get a movement AoO if all you do is a 5 foot step&quot; rule have to do with whether you allowed to get use more than one 5 foot step per round.Rather harse shutting down of Caliban there AGGEMAM and then your reasoning wasn't even applicable.If you want to show that he is wrong, please quote a reference that refers to what he was talking about.Fine. You can make a 5 foot with a full round action. Where does it say that you cannot make a 5 foot with a full round, followed by a 5 foot with a partial when Hasted?Where are the exceptions noted? How can you infer that the exception must apply to when you are hasted and have already done a 5 foot? Maybe it means when you do a partial charge and have already moved with your partial action.Again, none of the rules quoted so far have definitively stated that you cannot have two 5 foot moves in a round. The only rule that even comes close is the one for MEAs which states this for MEAs. However, you cannot take this specific single case and say that it means it for everything. The designers quite explicitly ONLY stated this for MEAs, possibly because MEAs are the only actions where you can get two in a normal round, but who knows?But, you cannot infer from this that the designers also meant it for hasted rounds. Nor, can you infer from the reference in the FAQ that they meant it for hasted rounds either. You can assume that, but you cannot infer it and state it as fact.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 28142, member: 2011"] What does the "enemies do not get a movement AoO if all you do is a 5 foot step" rule have to do with whether you allowed to get use more than one 5 foot step per round. Rather harse shutting down of Caliban there AGGEMAM and then your reasoning wasn't even applicable. If you want to show that he is wrong, please quote a reference that refers to what he was talking about. Fine. You can make a 5 foot with a full round action. Where does it say that you cannot make a 5 foot with a full round, followed by a 5 foot with a partial when Hasted? Where are the exceptions noted? How can you infer that the exception must apply to when you are hasted and have already done a 5 foot? Maybe it means when you do a partial charge and have already moved with your partial action. Again, none of the rules quoted so far have definitively stated that you cannot have two 5 foot moves in a round. The only rule that even comes close is the one for MEAs which states this for MEAs. However, you cannot take this specific single case and say that it means it for everything. The designers quite explicitly ONLY stated this for MEAs, possibly because MEAs are the only actions where you can get two in a normal round, but who knows? But, you cannot infer from this that the designers also meant it for hasted rounds. Nor, can you infer from the reference in the FAQ that they meant it for hasted rounds either. You can assume that, but you cannot infer it and state it as fact. [/QUOTE]

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