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<blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5684451" data-attributes="member: 98255">I see this discussion of alignment in game is going every bit as well as the ones I remember participating in back in the day. Neither side sees eye to eye, and that is unlikely to change. Differing play styles and preferences. It happens.D&amp;D lost something 'many' felt worth keeping. Apparently 'many' felt just as strongly that it had to go. I will agree that it's easier to ignore alignment than backport it, but at 4e's launch, the approach was &quot;everything is core&quot; and therefore fair game, meaning that a lot of DMs and players would *have to* use it, like it or not. Any organized play, LFR, etc.I understand the decision to ditch it.You and many others don't like that, and I understand that too. It's also why Next Edition, it will likely be included as one of the 'options' that [MENTION=697]mearls[/MENTION] has been talking about lately.That said, I fail to see how the lack of alignment hard-coded into the game stops you from playing a paladin based on literary tropes. Just not seeing it. You still get to write 'paladin' on your sheet, you still get to write 'lawful good' on your sheet. You can still make up a code to follow based on said tropes. If you break said code, you can still impose your own restrictions, and with your DM's help - they can be real. Zowie!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nemesis Destiny, post: 5684451, member: 98255"] I see this discussion of alignment in game is going every bit as well as the ones I remember participating in back in the day. Neither side sees eye to eye, and that is unlikely to change. Differing play styles and preferences. It happens. D&D lost something 'many' felt worth keeping. Apparently 'many' felt just as strongly that it had to go. I will agree that it's easier to ignore alignment than backport it, but at 4e's launch, the approach was "everything is core" and therefore fair game, meaning that a lot of DMs and players would *[I]have to[/I]* use it, like it or not. Any organized play, LFR, etc. I understand the decision to ditch it. You and many others don't like that, and I understand that too. It's also why Next Edition, it will likely be included as one of the 'options' that [MENTION=697]mearls[/MENTION] has been talking about lately. That said, I fail to see how the lack of alignment hard-coded into the game stops you from playing a paladin based on literary tropes. Just not seeing it. You still get to write 'paladin' on your sheet, you still get to write 'lawful good' on your sheet. You can still make up a code to follow based on said tropes. If you break said code, you can still impose your own restrictions, and with your DM's help - they can be [I]real[/I]. Zowie! [/QUOTE]

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