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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 5684518" data-attributes="member: 29398">We-ell, this is an eye-opener - the second one this week!  I'll explain the other one below...Thanks for the discussion and the votes so far, all; don't take this as the end, but as a sum-up so far and an explanation as to why this poll exists.Right now the votes stand thusly:5-point system - 459-point system - 13other system - 3no alignments - 43which is not at all what I expected.  From reading all sorts of posts over the last few years I had come to believe that 4e's alignment system was one thing many 4e DMs had abandoned in favour of the 9-point system of old.  Clearly, at least from this poll, such is not the case.  Instead, they've abandoned it for...nothing at all; or kept the system as written.From my own perspective, as a dyed-in-the-wool 1e-er, I can't imagine the game without alignments, if only to keep the aligned-item mechanics.  I'm not a big fan of the Detect spells but they kinda come with the territory; though alignments in my game have lots of shades of gray to them.All this comes out of an alignment debate raging around my game right now, sparked by one of my players quoting some article from either TSR or WotC that gave Batman as an example of LG.  "Batman???", said some of us rather emphatically, as we were long used to Superman as the archtypal LG.But then I did some digging, and found - much to my surprise and amazement - that the definition of what each alignment represents has in fact morphed quite significantly over the years.  I compared the 1e descriptions with those from 3e - and in 3e terms Batman *would* be LG where in 1e he'd be LN or N at best.So I wondered what had happened with 4e; whether the posts I thought I'd been reading were reflecting the overall state of things (so far, not), and this poll is the result.Also, while Paladins are the class most often brought up in alignment debates, Clerics and old-time Monks also have to watch their p's and q's; as will soon enough become evident in my game... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Lan-"some things that should not have been forgotten, were lost"-efan</blockquote>

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