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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 3611339" data-attributes="member: 12032">Just as an aside, here are some rules that folks have proposed for recent games we've either started or talked about starting:#1 Improved goblins/hobgoblins/orcs/kobolds as the only PC races.&nbsp; 36 (I think) point buy, but you have to spend some of those points to be a caster and you can spend 9 to be always one level higher than you should be.&nbsp; #2 Gestalt Monk/X where X must be a Bo9S class only.Both games had highly limited magic, the 2nd one has basically no magic.&nbsp; The first advancement was slower than normal (1 level every 4-6 sessions), the 2nd much faster (1 level per session).We're currently debating which to play, but it looks like Deadlands is winning <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />In another game I played in recently, the rules were 25 (or 28 maybe?) point buy, core rules only as a starting point.Mark</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 3611339, member: 12032"] Just as an aside, here are some rules that folks have proposed for recent games we've either started or talked about starting: #1 Improved goblins/hobgoblins/orcs/kobolds as the only PC races. 36 (I think) point buy, but you have to spend some of those points to be a caster and you can spend 9 to be always one level higher than you should be. #2 Gestalt Monk/X where X must be a Bo9S class only. Both games had highly limited magic, the 2nd one has basically no magic. The first advancement was slower than normal (1 level every 4-6 sessions), the 2nd much faster (1 level per session). We're currently debating which to play, but it looks like Deadlands is winning :-) In another game I played in recently, the rules were 25 (or 28 maybe?) point buy, core rules only as a starting point. Mark [/QUOTE]

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