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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 6645861" data-attributes="member: 53980">We seem to be in agreement on the potion, the mantle, and the hat, but in the case of the mace don't think I quite follow your meaning. If someone used a Mace of Terror in your game, then dropped it and pulled out another weapon, would you have the fear effect go away? Now, if someone used a Mace of Terror and was then polymorphed (and let's assume we're using your house rule where the magic item falls to the ground) would the fear effect go away?If no in both cases, then we're in agreement.I'm pretty sure you're not going to say yes to the former but no to the latter, so I'm ignoring that case.If yes in the latter case, you're giving polymorph an awful lot of power. Remember that while polymorph can be used as a buff, it can also be a debuff. Making an enemy drop all of its gear is, IMO, more powerful than a 4th level spell ought to be.Imagine the following scenario:DM: After many months of hunting the dread lord BBG, he stands before you in his dull black demon plate, the legendary blade of darkness, BFS gripped in his hand. He glowers at you with a malevolence that seems palpable.Wizard: I polymorph him into a frog.DM: He fails his save. His demon plate and the BFS fall to the ground.Rogue: I grab his gear and run away with it. Cunning action.Fighter: I hit him.DM: Well, polymorph absorbs 1 point of the damage, but he takes the rest of the damage and now BBG is standing before you looking quite less malevolent, rather startled, and quite naked.Players in unison: Well, this should be easy!Not something I feel should be within the purview of Polymorph.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 6645861, member: 53980"] We seem to be in agreement on the potion, the mantle, and the hat, but in the case of the mace don't think I quite follow your meaning. If someone used a Mace of Terror in your game, then dropped it and pulled out another weapon, would you have the fear effect go away? Now, if someone used a Mace of Terror and was then polymorphed (and let's assume we're using your house rule where the magic item falls to the ground) would the fear effect go away? If no in both cases, then we're in agreement. I'm pretty sure you're not going to say yes to the former but no to the latter, so I'm ignoring that case. If yes in the latter case, you're giving polymorph an awful lot of power. Remember that while polymorph can be used as a buff, it can also be a debuff. Making an enemy drop all of its gear is, IMO, more powerful than a 4th level spell ought to be. Imagine the following scenario: DM: After many months of hunting the dread lord BBG, he stands before you in his dull black demon plate, the legendary blade of darkness, BFS gripped in his hand. He glowers at you with a malevolence that seems palpable. Wizard: I polymorph him into a frog. DM: He fails his save. His demon plate and the BFS fall to the ground. Rogue: I grab his gear and run away with it. Cunning action. Fighter: I hit him. DM: Well, polymorph absorbs 1 point of the damage, but he takes the rest of the damage and now BBG is standing before you looking quite less malevolent, rather startled, and quite naked. Players in unison: Well, this should be easy! Not something I feel should be within the purview of Polymorph. [/QUOTE]

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