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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7195504" data-attributes="member: 20564">I'm using the revised ranger, I want to see another revision.  It's much better then the PHB ranger, but went too powerful in some parts and not flexible enough in others.1.  Natural Explorer first set of bullet points are overpowered, and since it's granted at 1st level are also very cherry-pickable if the multiclassing rules are used.2.  I don't think I've seen a case except CoS where Humanoids weren't the first Favored Enemy pick.  It's just too useful, especially with other features.3.  Primeval Awareness' second usage is one of those divinations that break plots.  "Hmm, we know the bandits have a camp somewhere in the woods.  Let's just ride quickly and look for humanoids (which we picked as our favored enemies).  It also means that a DM needs to know what's in an area - if you're traveling and using it.  Hmm, are there any aberrations within 5 miles?  Well, there's the dungeon I haven't worked out yet after foreshadowing how dangerous it is - will I have aberrations there?It's not unworkable, but needs limits.  4. Conclave is a stupid subclass designation for perhaps the #1 loner class.5a. Beast Conclave:  stop using actual animals where you need to worry about balancing them and just have base stats per level.5b. Actually, don't assume everyone wants the same thing, and have different options of those base stats.  A flying creature, etc.  Maybe some sets (like a flying mount) can't come in until later levels.5c. Bonus points for allowing the beast conclave to have some non-combat animal companions as well, like Beast Master (the book by Andre Norton, not the movie ... though they did have the same selection of beasts: big cat, bird of prey, two weasly thieves.)5d.  Oh, and have clear information about multiclassing and the beast.  You need both reasons to stay in the class as well as not invalidating the levels you took if you don't stay single-classed.6.  Hunter Conclave:  Defensive Tactics: Steel Will is much weaker than the other options or what you expect for a 7th level feature.7.  Deep Stalker: I know it came out in the underdark themed UA, but I'd rather see this opened up to a bunch of silent hunter archetypes instead of a specific location for one setting.  In other words, reskin to be an ambusher/waiting hunter (plus swap out darkvision).All of this said, it's still much more playable then the PHB version and I'd let it in my game (without multiclassing).</blockquote>

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