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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 378963" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>Well, that's kinda what I figured. Interesting, since I think my campaign is actually not very "vile" overall. The butt-rape incidents surprised me, as did the reactions of the victims; I certainly would have thought that it would have led to at least a falling-out between characters and prolly to blows, but everyone took it in good humor; the party shortly had a "don't touch me in my no-no place" club arise within it. I agree that rape isn't funny in any _normal_ context, but between orcs who all laugh about it after the fact... well, I guess if it's funny to all the <strong>players</strong> involved... who am I to lecture? I have a longstanding policy of not tampering with someone's roleplaying unless it's obviously metagamed, so I really felt my hands were sorta tied- especially since it started with an orcish ex-monk named Ike Dyson who was based on Mike Tyson (convicted rapist, y'know)...</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong; if they weren't already evil characters they'd have had some massive alignment switches coming, btw.</p><p></p><p>About the necrophiliac religion: it's always been a very minor cult, and pretty much an adversarial one; I don't think there's been a pc priest of Froth (the deity) since some experimental evil one-shot I ran years and years ago. Actually, that religion is another example of the actions have consequences rule, too; Froth became a god due to some pc actions, and was well-known as a perverted and sick individual. One of those "We made _what_ happen???" things.</p><p></p><p>The cannibix- it's the remnant of an ancient culture, driven almost to extinction, based around appeasing the forces of nature so they don't come and squash civilization. It was persecuted almost to the point of total destruction centuries ago. It was originally created as a specialty priest of a very savage nature in 2e, and since there had been a pc and several plot lines around it, I didn't feel like just disregarding it once 3e came along. Also, I made it to be the master of the ability increase just as fighters are the master of the feat, monks the master of the class ability, rogues the master of the skills, etc. It isn't all about eating your species, but rather about sacrificing worthy enemies to the forces of nature and eating their hearts to gain some of their power. I actually helped a kid I tutored work on a paper about cannibalism he wrote for school, and this influenced my take on the cannabix a lot.</p><p></p><p>I don't want to sound like I'm trying to "justify" my game to anyone or anything, just making a few points clear. Especially about the rape issue. I agree: it isn't funny. But humor- well, someone once said "We laugh because it hurts too much." I think that is a very insightful comment on the nature of humor itself; every joke has a butt. I try to laugh at my misfortune whenever I have some; and though I've never been raped and I'm sure it would suck and be very difficult to laugh at, if it happens in game and the victims can laugh about it I'm not going to try to make them role-play it more "realistically" and spoil everyone's fun.</p><p></p><p>Still, I'm going to vote myself vile... even though my game is fun for everyone, and I've had young kids play in it with their parents' full knowledge and approval (if you're interested, here's the thread I mentioned it in: <a href="http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24971" target="_blank">http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24971</a>). </p><p></p><p>All that said, I'm gonna go vote and see how everyone else feels they rate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 378963, member: 1210"] Well, that's kinda what I figured. Interesting, since I think my campaign is actually not very "vile" overall. The butt-rape incidents surprised me, as did the reactions of the victims; I certainly would have thought that it would have led to at least a falling-out between characters and prolly to blows, but everyone took it in good humor; the party shortly had a "don't touch me in my no-no place" club arise within it. I agree that rape isn't funny in any _normal_ context, but between orcs who all laugh about it after the fact... well, I guess if it's funny to all the [B]players[/B] involved... who am I to lecture? I have a longstanding policy of not tampering with someone's roleplaying unless it's obviously metagamed, so I really felt my hands were sorta tied- especially since it started with an orcish ex-monk named Ike Dyson who was based on Mike Tyson (convicted rapist, y'know)... Don't get me wrong; if they weren't already evil characters they'd have had some massive alignment switches coming, btw. About the necrophiliac religion: it's always been a very minor cult, and pretty much an adversarial one; I don't think there's been a pc priest of Froth (the deity) since some experimental evil one-shot I ran years and years ago. Actually, that religion is another example of the actions have consequences rule, too; Froth became a god due to some pc actions, and was well-known as a perverted and sick individual. One of those "We made _what_ happen???" things. The cannibix- it's the remnant of an ancient culture, driven almost to extinction, based around appeasing the forces of nature so they don't come and squash civilization. It was persecuted almost to the point of total destruction centuries ago. It was originally created as a specialty priest of a very savage nature in 2e, and since there had been a pc and several plot lines around it, I didn't feel like just disregarding it once 3e came along. Also, I made it to be the master of the ability increase just as fighters are the master of the feat, monks the master of the class ability, rogues the master of the skills, etc. It isn't all about eating your species, but rather about sacrificing worthy enemies to the forces of nature and eating their hearts to gain some of their power. I actually helped a kid I tutored work on a paper about cannibalism he wrote for school, and this influenced my take on the cannabix a lot. I don't want to sound like I'm trying to "justify" my game to anyone or anything, just making a few points clear. Especially about the rape issue. I agree: it isn't funny. But humor- well, someone once said "We laugh because it hurts too much." I think that is a very insightful comment on the nature of humor itself; every joke has a butt. I try to laugh at my misfortune whenever I have some; and though I've never been raped and I'm sure it would suck and be very difficult to laugh at, if it happens in game and the victims can laugh about it I'm not going to try to make them role-play it more "realistically" and spoil everyone's fun. Still, I'm going to vote myself vile... even though my game is fun for everyone, and I've had young kids play in it with their parents' full knowledge and approval (if you're interested, here's the thread I mentioned it in: [url]http://enworld.cyberstreet.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24971[/url]). All that said, I'm gonna go vote and see how everyone else feels they rate. [/QUOTE]
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