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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Xeviat" data-source="post: 7202743" data-attributes="member: 57494">It seems many people want origin spells. I'd like to discuss what adding them to the sorcerer would do.Adding 10 spells known would push the sorcerer up to 25 spells known, which would match the number of prepped spells a typical Wizard will have at 20th; the sorcerer would have more than the wizard for most of their levels if we just tacked the Extra on top of what exists now.Origin spells, if done like domains, would add 2 spells of 1st through 5th level. This would change be sorcerer's progression to be much faster than he wizard, but it would slow at the end. More known than a wizard preps might be fine; the wizard can change them day to day. But, so we want this much difference?Level 1: Wiz 4, Sor 2; New Sor 4Level 2: Wiz 5, Sor 3; New Sor 5Level 3: Wiz 6, Sor 4; New Sor 8Level 4: Wiz 8, Sor 5; New Sor 9Level 5: Wiz 9, Sor 6; New Sor 12Level 6: Wiz 10, Sor 7; New Sor 13Level 7: Wiz 11, Sor 8; New Sor 16Level 8: Wiz 13, Sor 9; New Sor 17Level 9: Wiz 14, Sor 10; New Sor 20Level 10: Wiz 15, Sor 11; New Sor 21Level 11: Wiz 16, Sor 12; New Sor 22Level 12: Wiz 17, Sor 12; New Sor 22Level 13: Wiz 18, Sor 13; New Sor 23Level 14: Wiz 19, Sor 13; New Sor 23Level 15: Wiz 20, Sor 14; New Sor 24Level 16: Wiz 21, Sor 14; New Sor 24Level 17: Wiz 22, Sor 15; New Sor 25Level 18: Wiz 23, Sor 15; New Sor 25Level 19: Wiz 24, Sor 15; New Sor 25Level 20: Wiz 25, Sor 15; New Sor 25If we consider metamagic to be additional spells known, that's an extra 4 spells.So, adding origin spells will frontload the sorcerer even more. This could be changed by switching their base spells to every other level known past the first two, then switching them to every level at level 11. They'd get more higher level slots, but less lower level slots by choice (since 10 would be chosen by origin). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk</blockquote>

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