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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6037627" data-attributes="member: 22779">Y'know, all the rules back and forth aside, I think I seen now where the issue lies.&nbsp; People's ideas of an &quot;average&quot; person can vary greatly.&nbsp; To me, a blacksmith would never be an expert.&nbsp; Why would you use that class for a blacksmith?&nbsp; He has absolutely no need for those skills and even the writeup in the DMG for experts would lead me to think that a commoner is a much better model.After all, the only skill our blacksmith needs is Profession Blacksmith.&nbsp; That's it.Then we have the example, some time ago, of an average town guard.&nbsp; Warrior 1 with weapon focus longsword and toughness (of course it presumes human) armed with a longsword and wearing scale mail.&nbsp; Really?&nbsp; To me that's an experienced soldier or mercenary.&nbsp; Someone who's fairly high up on the food chain.&nbsp; Not some standard town guard who is more likely carrying a truncheon and a pike and wearing leather armor.&nbsp; How rich is this town that can afford almost 100 gp worth of equipment for an average town guard?&nbsp; Never mind the advanced training to give him weapon focus.To me, a town guard is likely a commoner with Feat:&nbsp; Polearm proficiency.&nbsp; That's an average town guard, to me.&nbsp; The game has always presumed that about 95% of the population is normal humans (either that or 1st level commoners) with no stat bonuses whatsoever.&nbsp; Yup, you can start fiddling about with the stats, giving them masterwork tools and the like, but, to me, this is just a solution looking for a problem.&nbsp; No thanks.&nbsp; I'll stick with my statblock thanks - Bob the Blacksmith, Smithing +X.&nbsp; Just so much easier.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6037627, member: 22779"] Y'know, all the rules back and forth aside, I think I seen now where the issue lies. People's ideas of an "average" person can vary greatly. To me, a blacksmith would never be an expert. Why would you use that class for a blacksmith? He has absolutely no need for those skills and even the writeup in the DMG for experts would lead me to think that a commoner is a much better model. After all, the only skill our blacksmith needs is Profession Blacksmith. That's it. Then we have the example, some time ago, of an average town guard. Warrior 1 with weapon focus longsword and toughness (of course it presumes human) armed with a longsword and wearing scale mail. Really? To me that's an experienced soldier or mercenary. Someone who's fairly high up on the food chain. Not some standard town guard who is more likely carrying a truncheon and a pike and wearing leather armor. How rich is this town that can afford almost 100 gp worth of equipment for an average town guard? Never mind the advanced training to give him weapon focus. To me, a town guard is likely a commoner with Feat: Polearm proficiency. That's an average town guard, to me. The game has always presumed that about 95% of the population is normal humans (either that or 1st level commoners) with no stat bonuses whatsoever. Yup, you can start fiddling about with the stats, giving them masterwork tools and the like, but, to me, this is just a solution looking for a problem. No thanks. I'll stick with my statblock thanks - Bob the Blacksmith, Smithing +X. Just so much easier. [/QUOTE]

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