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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6045046" data-attributes="member: 48965">But doesn't assigning a level to the PC allow me to ball park or not ballpark him relative to the level of the PC's, or the campaign world (depending on my preference)... and thus have a better feel for what type of challenge he will present as opposed to slapping a random number in his skill?  I did say theoretically, and I think all the things I listed, as well as quite a few I didn't would be things a PC could theoretically do. As to your second point I wasn't asking about how the classes in and of themselves advance. Since by RAW, a DM can award XP as he sees fit in every edition since at least 3.0... there's no need to assume here that cooks had to advance through killing goblins just because they have a certain amount of experience points. The example given by N'racc specifically divorced comabt ability from the leveling up of these classes so I'm not sure why this was even mentioned.  I'm not sure who this is directed at since I never stated it did. I do think that arbitrarily assigning skill values (especially being a new DM and without guidance or some kind of measurement scale) certainly has the potential to destroy the versimilitude and immersion of players if a DM isn't careful and doesn't keep track of the scores he's choosing.</blockquote>