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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 358461" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>I'm not questioning it's interest value...just pointing out that your results would be better if the poll was better formulated. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Regarding Tolkein's elves...let's be clear: they weren't elitist...they simply were better. First chosen of the Gods, immortal, possessed of advanced powers that the other races could never possess, and the list goes on. Despite all that, they were still very welcoming and generally friendly. In general, the elves were friends to everyone at the start, and then one by one, the various races in Tolkein's world did something to tick them off, and earn their dislike, if not actual enmity. Dwarves were once welcome in Lothlorien, although by the time of 'Fellowship', they had long since worn out their welcome.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm assuming the second line was meant to read 'If they chose NOT to leave'. Based on what I've read, they would have forcibly ejected them, not killed them. In fact, <em> from the LGG, page 69: <strong> it was a bloodless revolution, yet catastrophic for the inhabitants of Lendore Isle.</strong></em> It goes on to say the mostly non-violent means that were used (mainly illusions and the threat of imprisonment...not death), and that everyone had three days to vacate, and were relocated to the Sea Barons', if they hadn't already escaped using the Gate of Glass. All of which was done in the service of Sehanine Moonbow, in the process of repossessing the islands from the descendants of the wizard Lendore, who the Elves had lent it to after the Invoked Devastation....and who hadn't been given leave to let all those folks live there in the first place.</p><p></p><p>So, In short, the actions could easily be seen as Chaotic Good. Their diety requires them to turn the islands into a sacred place for the Elves, possibly as it was always meant to be. Faced with the necessity of removing non-elves and unbelievers from the area and defying the already established local government, the Elves use non-violent means to follow the dictates of their gods. All of this done under the auspices of CG 20th level elven cleric.</p><p></p><p>Celene follows suit, generally, by instigating the Hateful Wars with the help of her neighbors, and ignoring treaties when it's in the nations best interest to do so. They normally come to the aid of their allies, with the exception of the Greyhawk Wars, where the queen institutes an isolationist policy. This policy doesn't sit well with many, leading to many elves going to fight battles without the approval of the queen. All of this is consistent with a Chaotic Good society, IMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 358461, member: 151"] I'm not questioning it's interest value...just pointing out that your results would be better if the poll was better formulated. Regarding Tolkein's elves...let's be clear: they weren't elitist...they simply were better. First chosen of the Gods, immortal, possessed of advanced powers that the other races could never possess, and the list goes on. Despite all that, they were still very welcoming and generally friendly. In general, the elves were friends to everyone at the start, and then one by one, the various races in Tolkein's world did something to tick them off, and earn their dislike, if not actual enmity. Dwarves were once welcome in Lothlorien, although by the time of 'Fellowship', they had long since worn out their welcome. I'm assuming the second line was meant to read 'If they chose NOT to leave'. Based on what I've read, they would have forcibly ejected them, not killed them. In fact, [i] from the LGG, page 69: [b] it was a bloodless revolution, yet catastrophic for the inhabitants of Lendore Isle.[/b][/i] It goes on to say the mostly non-violent means that were used (mainly illusions and the threat of imprisonment...not death), and that everyone had three days to vacate, and were relocated to the Sea Barons', if they hadn't already escaped using the Gate of Glass. All of which was done in the service of Sehanine Moonbow, in the process of repossessing the islands from the descendants of the wizard Lendore, who the Elves had lent it to after the Invoked Devastation....and who hadn't been given leave to let all those folks live there in the first place. So, In short, the actions could easily be seen as Chaotic Good. Their diety requires them to turn the islands into a sacred place for the Elves, possibly as it was always meant to be. Faced with the necessity of removing non-elves and unbelievers from the area and defying the already established local government, the Elves use non-violent means to follow the dictates of their gods. All of this done under the auspices of CG 20th level elven cleric. Celene follows suit, generally, by instigating the Hateful Wars with the help of her neighbors, and ignoring treaties when it's in the nations best interest to do so. They normally come to the aid of their allies, with the exception of the Greyhawk Wars, where the queen institutes an isolationist policy. This policy doesn't sit well with many, leading to many elves going to fight battles without the approval of the queen. All of this is consistent with a Chaotic Good society, IMHO. [/QUOTE]
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