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<blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 1001118" data-attributes="member: 319">I could actually imagine running a game without using minis (wouldn't particularly want to, though).I'd never play in a game that doesn't use minis, unless it involved the best storytelling and role-playing I've ever seen, or something, for two reasons.1. In the games I was in where people weren't using a mat and minis, they were simply doing so due to the fact everyone, including the DM, didn't know the rules worth a damn and couldn't be bothered to learn... One man's &quot;freeform&quot; is another's &quot;simplistic and boring&quot;.2. The DM does NOT get to control my character unless he's under the effect of mind-influencing magic. When it's up to the DM to decide whether I incur an AAO, can take an AAO, get a Cleave, can move into a flanking position, am eligible for a sneak attack because someone went off running away, can use Spring Attack, have a straight line to charge, can bullrush someone off a cliff, etc. he's making arbitrary decisions for my characer, and I want no part of that. For the most part, I don't want to be told a story, I want to play a game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmu1, post: 1001118, member: 319"] I could actually imagine running a game without using minis (wouldn't particularly want to, though). I'd never play in a game that doesn't use minis, unless it involved the best storytelling and role-playing I've ever seen, or something, for two reasons. 1. In the games I was in where people weren't using a mat and minis, they were simply doing so due to the fact everyone, including the DM, didn't know the rules worth a damn and couldn't be bothered to learn... One man's "freeform" is another's "simplistic and boring". 2. The DM does NOT get to control my character unless he's under the effect of mind-influencing magic. When it's up to the DM to decide whether I incur an AAO, can take an AAO, get a Cleave, can move into a flanking position, am eligible for a sneak attack because someone went off running away, can use Spring Attack, have a straight line to charge, can bullrush someone off a cliff, etc. he's making arbitrary decisions for my characer, and I want no part of that. For the most part, I don't want to be told a story, I want to play a game. [/QUOTE]

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