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[Polyhedron] Are women interested in this type of fantasy?
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<blockquote data-quote="Lizard" data-source="post: 977106" data-attributes="member: 1054"><p>Well, there's my point, you see. Flash Gordon/John Carter/Green Star/T'schai(sp) aren't cool because they feature mindless women as prizes to be won by the hero. They're cool because of stunning vistas, strange races and cultures, endless opportunities for heroism and excitement, scheming villains, daring leaps from balconies to passing air-cars, knocking the ray guns from your foes hand with your sword, and flying off into the sunset on a winged snake. That's what's cool and fun, and that's as likely to appeal to any woman who games as any man.</p><p></p><p>The best recent example is Star Wars. Star Wars was very much a modern-day (well, to the extent 1977 is 'modern') Flash Gordon serial -- but Princess Leia wasn't a helpless token to be rescued and nothing more. She was someone *worthy* of heroes like Han and Luke. She shot blasters, fired the guns on the Falcon, and dissed Tarkin.</p><p></p><p>ILJ is not a post-modern deconstructionist neo-feminist reinterpretation of planetary romance stories. It is, I humbly submit, wholly faithful to the spirit and tone of the novels which inspired it. It does not include the 'Emasculate' feat, nor the 'Butch Warrior Woman' Advanced Class. Following the thematic lines of D&D 3e, it simply does not make the assumption that the game <em>requires</em> macho men and helpless women; it contains precisely *one* sentence noting that heroic roles are not limited to males only.</p><p></p><p>(Are people also upset that the 'iconic paladin' in 3e is female? Or that there's no longer any Strength penalty for female characters?)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lizard, post: 977106, member: 1054"] Well, there's my point, you see. Flash Gordon/John Carter/Green Star/T'schai(sp) aren't cool because they feature mindless women as prizes to be won by the hero. They're cool because of stunning vistas, strange races and cultures, endless opportunities for heroism and excitement, scheming villains, daring leaps from balconies to passing air-cars, knocking the ray guns from your foes hand with your sword, and flying off into the sunset on a winged snake. That's what's cool and fun, and that's as likely to appeal to any woman who games as any man. The best recent example is Star Wars. Star Wars was very much a modern-day (well, to the extent 1977 is 'modern') Flash Gordon serial -- but Princess Leia wasn't a helpless token to be rescued and nothing more. She was someone *worthy* of heroes like Han and Luke. She shot blasters, fired the guns on the Falcon, and dissed Tarkin. ILJ is not a post-modern deconstructionist neo-feminist reinterpretation of planetary romance stories. It is, I humbly submit, wholly faithful to the spirit and tone of the novels which inspired it. It does not include the 'Emasculate' feat, nor the 'Butch Warrior Woman' Advanced Class. Following the thematic lines of D&D 3e, it simply does not make the assumption that the game [i]requires[/i] macho men and helpless women; it contains precisely *one* sentence noting that heroic roles are not limited to males only. (Are people also upset that the 'iconic paladin' in 3e is female? Or that there's no longer any Strength penalty for female characters?) [/QUOTE]
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