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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 978280" data-attributes="member: 6533">Re: Re: Can't resist any more...No offense intended, SJ, but the while there may be a vast distinction between turning Human Nature and turning the World upside down they are both such sufficiently vast acts as to invite a certain amount of criticism and, potentially, ridicule.In fact I'd say the vastness implicit in that statement is the cause of the issue a lot of people are taking with your arguments, rather than the more civilized dispute people have had or not had with your argument overall.While you are certainly well within the rights of any discourse to state a belief in a human nature and to ascribe certain attributes to that right, your opponents are equally within their rights to attack the argument based on the impossibility of accurately addressing such a topic through such means as a small, specific, and local portion of the human race.Indeed, even were it possible to demonstrate that every member of the human race currently shares such a broad and essentially rhetorical quality the argument would still be limited by the fact that it would only address such a portion of the human race as exists now, not those of the past or future or in other potential circumstances.A less absolutely worded version of the argument would contribute a great deal to its credibility, allow the topic to return to its focus, and cause less consternation all around.This is the sort of thing Compositionists all over America, and elsewhere I assume, have to continually address.  If it doesn't get done rhetoric tends to get bogged down in arguments over means and semantics, as it has here, to the tune of much mutual frustration.Also please fix the grammar error in your signature, clergy is a plural group noun and does not agree with has.  Looks like a grammar checker got to it and mangled it.  Not normally a problem in this informal medium, but seeing the same error everytime I read your otherwise fascinating messages did make me want to speak out about it.</blockquote>

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