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<blockquote data-quote="azhrei_fje" data-source="post: 2727794" data-attributes="member: 12966"><p>The recent thread on how the FAQ has clarified (!) the <em>polymorph</em> family of spells has prompted me to ask a related question:</p><p></p><p>When a 7th level mage wants to <em>polymorph</em> into a black dragon, can he?</p><p></p><p>Specifically, I'm thinking about the requirement that the spell only allows the spellcaster to change his form into what is normal for the new form:</p><p></p><p>My thinking is that the entries in the Monster Manuals presuppose that those entries describe typical adult specimens of the particular race. <span style="color: red">First question: can we assume that MM entries refer to "adult" versions, unless the MM entry says otherwise?</span></p><p></p><p>If so, then the only form that can be assumed by the <em>polymorph</em> spells is the adult form, since that is the <strong>average member</strong> as described in the MM. <span style="color: red">Second question: because the adult Black Dragon is 20HD, can the spellcaster in question change into a Black Dragon?</span></p><p></p><p>The text of <em>alter self</em> (which is not modified by the spell description of <em>polymorph</em>) says that the spellcaster can control minor physical qualities. <span style="color: red">Third question: is the age category of a dragon a "minor physical quality" such that the spellcaster can specify that they want to turn into a <u>juvenile</u> Black Dragon instead of an adult (as juveniles are 14HD)?</span></p><p></p><p>If one assumes that the game requires the adult form to be the only available option for a given MM entry, then:</p><p>can a creature be devolved (??) to a lower HD creature (instead of being advanced) in order to create a form which is within the acceptable HD limits?</p><p></p><p>Comments?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="azhrei_fje, post: 2727794, member: 12966"] The recent thread on how the FAQ has clarified (!) the [i]polymorph[/i] family of spells has prompted me to ask a related question: When a 7th level mage wants to [i]polymorph[/i] into a black dragon, can he? Specifically, I'm thinking about the requirement that the spell only allows the spellcaster to change his form into what is normal for the new form: My thinking is that the entries in the Monster Manuals presuppose that those entries describe typical adult specimens of the particular race. [color=red]First question: can we assume that MM entries refer to "adult" versions, unless the MM entry says otherwise?[/color] If so, then the only form that can be assumed by the [i]polymorph[/i] spells is the adult form, since that is the [b]average member[/b] as described in the MM. [color=red]Second question: because the adult Black Dragon is 20HD, can the spellcaster in question change into a Black Dragon?[/color] The text of [i]alter self[/i] (which is not modified by the spell description of [i]polymorph[/i]) says that the spellcaster can control minor physical qualities. [color=red]Third question: is the age category of a dragon a "minor physical quality" such that the spellcaster can specify that they want to turn into a [u]juvenile[/u] Black Dragon instead of an adult (as juveniles are 14HD)?[/color] If one assumes that the game requires the adult form to be the only available option for a given MM entry, then: can a creature be devolved (??) to a lower HD creature (instead of being advanced) in order to create a form which is within the acceptable HD limits? Comments? [/QUOTE]
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