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<blockquote data-quote="F5" data-source="post: 3734510" data-attributes="member: 4607"><p>Yeah, I can't see that they'll remove Polymorph from the game entirely. They'll be butchering some sacred cows, I'm sure, but this is one that will make it through in some way. There will be some mechanism for a caster to change shape, and they will most likely, for tradition's sake, call it "polymorph".</p><p></p><p>I think the changes to the Vancian magic system will play into it. If Polymorph is a per-encounter ability, you could still have it grant multiple forms...you'll just be stuck with one form for that encounter. When we actually see how the new magic system will work we'll be able to hypothesize better.</p><p></p><p>I think you would HAVE to go with one-spell-one-form, though...there would be no other way to balance the spell if each creature has unique abilities. I don't have a quote to back this up, but I'm remembering discussion from somewhere that monsters wouldn't be tied as tightly to HD as they are now; that you could have a tough monster without artificially bumping up its' HD. Thus, HD won't be a reliable method to base your available polymorph forms on. If there's a Polymorph: Troll and a Polymorph: Dragon and a Polymorph: Newt spell that are all at different levels, you don't have to worry about balancing multiple creatures with one spell.</p><p></p><p>I don't really LIKE it, but I don't see a better way. Maybe I'll be surprised.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="F5, post: 3734510, member: 4607"] Yeah, I can't see that they'll remove Polymorph from the game entirely. They'll be butchering some sacred cows, I'm sure, but this is one that will make it through in some way. There will be some mechanism for a caster to change shape, and they will most likely, for tradition's sake, call it "polymorph". I think the changes to the Vancian magic system will play into it. If Polymorph is a per-encounter ability, you could still have it grant multiple forms...you'll just be stuck with one form for that encounter. When we actually see how the new magic system will work we'll be able to hypothesize better. I think you would HAVE to go with one-spell-one-form, though...there would be no other way to balance the spell if each creature has unique abilities. I don't have a quote to back this up, but I'm remembering discussion from somewhere that monsters wouldn't be tied as tightly to HD as they are now; that you could have a tough monster without artificially bumping up its' HD. Thus, HD won't be a reliable method to base your available polymorph forms on. If there's a Polymorph: Troll and a Polymorph: Dragon and a Polymorph: Newt spell that are all at different levels, you don't have to worry about balancing multiple creatures with one spell. I don't really LIKE it, but I don't see a better way. Maybe I'll be surprised. [/QUOTE]
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