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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 538183" data-attributes="member: 537">Must you?You can interpret my actions however you wish.Jeez, I thought they were already quite beyond the borderline. Still, I can crank it up if you want. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />You say THAT as if it's a negative thing.Count two is incorrect because the topic of interest isn't what the rulebooks say, but how useful they are.What is &quot;right&quot; for any given topic of debate, and so forms the starting point for any further discussion, can only be decided by implicit agreement by the participants themselves. Since I've already made clear that I think what Skip says on this issue is a load of bollocks, then clearly he isn't &quot;right&quot;.Mass debates are fun, aren't they?I can dismiss as irrelevant anything I want.You seem rather verbose.(vast amounts of pointless twaddle snipped)Au contraire. This spell has been part of the magic-user/mage/wizard's armoury since 1E. If anything, the druid's wildshape is straying into classic wizard territory.And polymorph is broken. You didn't know this already?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hong, post: 538183, member: 537"] Must you? You can interpret my actions however you wish. Jeez, I thought they were already quite beyond the borderline. Still, I can crank it up if you want. :) You say THAT as if it's a negative thing. Count two is incorrect because the topic of interest isn't what the rulebooks say, but how useful they are. What is "right" for any given topic of debate, and so forms the starting point for any further discussion, can only be decided by implicit agreement by the participants themselves. Since I've already made clear that I think what Skip says on this issue is a load of bollocks, then clearly he isn't "right". Mass debates are fun, aren't they? I can dismiss as irrelevant anything I want. You seem rather verbose. (vast amounts of pointless twaddle snipped) Au contraire. This spell has been part of the magic-user/mage/wizard's armoury since 1E. If anything, the druid's wildshape is straying into classic wizard territory. And polymorph is broken. You didn't know this already? [/QUOTE]

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