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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 557803" data-attributes="member: 151"><p>Who was the designer for 3E? That's who I was referring to, namely that 3E doesn't have a single designer, it has several, and they didn't always agree. The editor and area specialist had final word, which is why Monte disagrees with stuff in the PHB and Skip disagrees with stuff where he didn't have control. If you know that the spell was designed by Skip in particular, and only Skip, then I'm glad to accept that 'designer intent' refers to him. However, as often as not, when someone uses that phrase with respect to 3E, there is an assumption that all of the designers were in agreement, when clearly they weren't.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess I interepeted this differently than you meant, then:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's never actually come up (the wizard usually prefers small dragons, gricks or Umber Hulks), but yes, I would. It would be a house rule, as I'd be changing the bat's stat-block apparently. I don't think it was the 'designer intent' that a player be able to polymorph into a bat that is totally blinded and useless. In your campaign, that may be illegal, and there's nothing wrong with that. We can pretty sure that no one will ever polymorph into a bat, either. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 557803, member: 151"] Who was the designer for 3E? That's who I was referring to, namely that 3E doesn't have a single designer, it has several, and they didn't always agree. The editor and area specialist had final word, which is why Monte disagrees with stuff in the PHB and Skip disagrees with stuff where he didn't have control. If you know that the spell was designed by Skip in particular, and only Skip, then I'm glad to accept that 'designer intent' refers to him. However, as often as not, when someone uses that phrase with respect to 3E, there is an assumption that all of the designers were in agreement, when clearly they weren't. [b][/b] I guess I interepeted this differently than you meant, then: It's never actually come up (the wizard usually prefers small dragons, gricks or Umber Hulks), but yes, I would. It would be a house rule, as I'd be changing the bat's stat-block apparently. I don't think it was the 'designer intent' that a player be able to polymorph into a bat that is totally blinded and useless. In your campaign, that may be illegal, and there's nothing wrong with that. We can pretty sure that no one will ever polymorph into a bat, either. :) [/QUOTE]
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