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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 9319469" data-attributes="member: 72555">I wouldn't treat the spell text as a complete description of&nbsp; how the spell works.&nbsp; I'd treat the spell text as a description of how the spell works under normal, standard conditions.When you leave the realm of normal, standard condition, that is when (a) the DM needs to make a call, and (b) arcana checks can be made to predict what may happen.This is clearly a non-normal standard situation.&nbsp; A petrified creature is (as you have noted) arguably both a creature and an object.&nbsp; What more, petrification is a kind of ongoing magical effect.On the other hand, polymorph has known properties when used to be cast on a creature who has no ongoing form-changing effects on it, and known properties when used to cast on a shapechanging creature, and known properties when used to be cast on an object (doesn't work).&nbsp; And if you have 2 shapechanging magics on a creature, there are relatively well known rules for how they interact.This will involve the degree to which a petrified creature remains a creature, how much petrification is similar to shapechanging magic or the like.Possible results could include:a) Doesn't workb) You get a petrified stone creaturec) You get a non-petrified creature who remembers being the non-petrified creatured) The magic interferes in bizarre waysof note is that without successful Arcana checks the PC shouldn't know what will happen.&nbsp; And even a successful Arcana check might just result in a plausible theory, or knowledge about where to find the answer.&nbsp; Like, maybe nobody has tried this and written it down.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 9319469, member: 72555"] I wouldn't treat the spell text as a complete description of how the spell works. I'd treat the spell text as a description of how the spell works under [I]normal[/I], [I]standard[/I] conditions. When you leave the realm of [I]normal[/I], [I]standard[/I] condition, that is when (a) the DM needs to make a call, and (b) arcana checks can be made to predict what may happen. This is clearly a non-normal standard situation. A petrified creature is (as you have noted) arguably both a creature and an object. What more, petrification is a kind of ongoing magical effect. On the other hand, polymorph has known properties when used to be cast on a creature who has no ongoing form-changing effects on it, and known properties when used to cast on a shapechanging creature, and known properties when used to be cast on an object (doesn't work). And if you have 2 shapechanging magics on a creature, there are relatively well known rules for how they interact. This will involve the degree to which a petrified creature remains a creature, how much petrification is similar to shapechanging magic or the like. Possible results could include: a) Doesn't work b) You get a petrified stone creature c) You get a non-petrified creature who remembers being the non-petrified creature d) The magic interferes in bizarre ways of note is that without successful Arcana checks the PC [I]shouldn't know[/I] what will happen. And even a successful Arcana check might just result in a plausible theory, or knowledge about where to find the answer. Like, maybe nobody has tried this and written it down. [/QUOTE]

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