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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1206499" data-attributes="member: 2011">Well, since it IS a spell that can affect objects, it does not seem like Frank's POV is valid.Frank will argue the opposing point of view WITHOUT actually quoting rules to support his position until the sun goes down, but he will never ever admit that he was wrong. Ever. Even if you quote the rules that illustrate that he is wrong, he will still contend that he was correct. Some people are that way.Instead, he will state things like &quot;By KD's erroneous criteria that would affect objects as well.&quot;. How is it erroneous? Quote a rule. It is obvious that Polymorpth Other affects objects. Does it effect them enough to qualify as a spell that affects objects? Well, without any other sort of rule to indicate otherwise, it appears that the answer to this question is yes, regardless of Franks emphatic belief without any supporting documentation to the contrary.I posted exact quotes that illustrate my point. I patiently wait for Frank to do the same, but I'll bet good money that he instead either ignores this or posts a bunch of arguments without rules to back them up (and by rules, I mean exact quotes, not the &quot;sorta, kinda, touchie, feelie&quot; type opinions that we normally get). This is a rules forum, not an opinion forum, even supposed opinions from designers which Frank often likes to throw around. If it is not in the books, a faq or an errata, it holds no weight here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1206499, member: 2011"] Well, since it IS a spell that can affect objects, it does not seem like Frank's POV is valid. Frank will argue the opposing point of view WITHOUT actually quoting rules to support his position until the sun goes down, but he will never ever admit that he was wrong. Ever. Even if you quote the rules that illustrate that he is wrong, he will still contend that he was correct. Some people are that way. Instead, he will state things like "By KD's erroneous criteria that would affect objects as well.". How is it erroneous? Quote a rule. It is obvious that Polymorpth Other affects objects. Does it effect them enough to qualify as a spell that affects objects? Well, without any other sort of rule to indicate otherwise, it appears that the answer to this question is yes, regardless of Franks emphatic belief without any supporting documentation to the contrary. I posted exact quotes that illustrate my point. I patiently wait for Frank to do the same, but I'll bet good money that he instead either ignores this or posts a bunch of arguments without rules to back them up (and by rules, I mean exact quotes, not the "sorta, kinda, touchie, feelie" type opinions that we normally get). This is a rules forum, not an opinion forum, even supposed opinions from designers which Frank often likes to throw around. If it is not in the books, a faq or an errata, it holds no weight here. [/QUOTE]

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