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<blockquote data-quote="Iron_Chef" data-source="post: 894401" data-attributes="member: 4530"><p>Okay, say you want to bargain for the services of an intelligent outsider or undead and have access to the <em>polymorph other</em> spell... In return for the creature's service, you promise to polymorph it into a more powerful type of outsider or undead. Would this be legal and would the results make it a good deal for the creature? It wouldn't get the new form's supernatural or spell-like abilities, but could benefit from heightened ability scores, extraordinary abilities and perhaps perceived respect and standing amongst its peers... This "tampering" in infernal heirarchies could be seen as a serious offense by the powers normally responsible for promoting lesser fiends, circumventing their authority...</p><p></p><p>Other polymorph questions:</p><p></p><p>Could you polymorph an undead spawn under the control of a "master" creature of its type into another type of undead, or into its original mortal form and would this then free it from the control of its "master" since it is now something other than a spawn the "master" could have created? How would this work if the creature retains its own type (undead)? Say you wanted to "save" someone turned into a vampire spawn... would this polymorph usage merely create an undead but normal appearing version of the original mortal? But with the undead subtype, and thus immortal?</p><p></p><p>Could you polymorph an evil outsider into a larva and use it to bargain with night hags or other fiends as "spiritual" currency? </p><p></p><p>Could you take a larva and polymorph it back into its mortal form, thus freeing a soul from its eternal punishment? Again, probably something the powers that be would frown upon...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iron_Chef, post: 894401, member: 4530"] Okay, say you want to bargain for the services of an intelligent outsider or undead and have access to the [i]polymorph other[/i] spell... In return for the creature's service, you promise to polymorph it into a more powerful type of outsider or undead. Would this be legal and would the results make it a good deal for the creature? It wouldn't get the new form's supernatural or spell-like abilities, but could benefit from heightened ability scores, extraordinary abilities and perhaps perceived respect and standing amongst its peers... This "tampering" in infernal heirarchies could be seen as a serious offense by the powers normally responsible for promoting lesser fiends, circumventing their authority... Other polymorph questions: Could you polymorph an undead spawn under the control of a "master" creature of its type into another type of undead, or into its original mortal form and would this then free it from the control of its "master" since it is now something other than a spawn the "master" could have created? How would this work if the creature retains its own type (undead)? Say you wanted to "save" someone turned into a vampire spawn... would this polymorph usage merely create an undead but normal appearing version of the original mortal? But with the undead subtype, and thus immortal? Could you polymorph an evil outsider into a larva and use it to bargain with night hags or other fiends as "spiritual" currency? Could you take a larva and polymorph it back into its mortal form, thus freeing a soul from its eternal punishment? Again, probably something the powers that be would frown upon... [/QUOTE]
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