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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgbrowning" data-source="post: 483517" data-attributes="member: 5724">Well there's two main reasons why i think its possible.1. Given the nature of landowership and that churches will be large landowners (not all churches, and not to the scale of the catholic church, but if the process of alienation of land to clergy is still occuring) you're eventually going to get clerics of the same church fighting each other.Lord A has cleric vassal A: Lord B has cleric vassal B.  Lords A and B decide to war (although clerics A and B try to talk them out of it).Now Clerics A and B are stuck in a very very rough social and legal situation.  The use of force as an expression of policy, especially as a legitimate expression of policy is one of the primary bases of a medieval society.  These two clerics are required by law and by all right and just social pressures to support their lords.  If they don't their lands can be subject to confiscation at worst, and at best the individual cleric will lose the right to govern those lands and be replaced with clerics who will obey the laws of the land.Churches will attempt to fight such things, but they won't have the power to do so.  The'll be other churches who'd be willing to be just, loyal, and obediant servants to a king.  Polytheism in a magical medieval setting would rather drastically change the methods, and power, we typicall associate with large churches.  Such a setting actually hampers "good" churches as many of the laws will require theire obedience even when performing "questionable" actions.2. The option you pointed out.  The'll be nothing worse than a war between two factions in a church.  LG vrs LN would be a rough fight.  3. Even within an absolutest morality there are still "moralities of scale."  A LG king who is LG 95% of the time and ocassionaly has to perform "evil" actions to maintain his power should, IMHO, be considered LG.  Paldins, as often discussed on these boards, will have issues with such rulers and may be faced with situations where disobedience to their liege lord's wishes may become necessarily, but they'll also face all of the legal and social problems i've mentioned about LG clerics. all of this, of course, leads to point 4. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />4. SOOOOOO much of this is dependant upon how DMs and players decide to view alignment.  I was going to have an alignment section in my book, and i still might, that discusses the concepts of the DnD alignment when transposed into a more historical medieval setting.  I still waver back and forth on this, as I'm trying to make sure of the "Stick with the Core Books." idea is the primary, but an explication about alignment would be most useful for understanding the medieval mindset.  I'll probably make up my mind at the last minute.. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Great!  I'm hoping that they'll be a lot more people like you that think this is interesting.  Its been about 4 months of writing/researching so far and expect 2 more.  I hope it helps a lot of people. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  And well, if it doesn't i'll at least have spent a lot of money so people can call me an idiot... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />joe b.Expeditious Retreat Press</blockquote>

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