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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5687880" data-attributes="member: 54877">I haven't invested even moderately heavily in a system since the launch of 3E, and I bought a fraction of the books released for it by WotC, let alone a tiny chunk of the 3rd-party stuff. (I suppose I got more than half of the Arcana Evolved stuff, but there wasn't much of it, and I used everything I bought.) So all I want out of a new version of D&D is that they get good people working on it, come up with a design that they find fun to run and play, and then do the best they can on it. If that system gives me something I don't have already, then great--I'll be interested in getting the basics of it to try it out. I suppose with something as extreme as 4E there is room for a refined version of it that would attract me. A 4E that stayed true to the core, expanded and refined skill challenges, made rituals and items more interesting, and perhaps provided an abstract option for resolving some conflicts when the full rules were overkill in the story--I'd probably be interested in that. But chances are, time the marketing/sales team gets done fragmenting such a product over several books that necessarily have bloat in them, I'll lose interest. And if all they do is pick around the edges, I already have the 4E books I need to make it work well for me. Edit:  Theoretically, there is a place for a 4E rewrite that deliberately kills power and feat bloat cold--and then replaces that page content with something new.  The trick is coming up with that something new. I still say if they want the best version of D&D, they lock Monte Cook, Mike Mearls, Luke Crane into a room for a year, with support staff picked by those guys, and whatever comes out they then playtest and polish with no major changes. But this book will fit into 2 to 4 volumes more or less complete, and thus they'll never do it. I'd sure like to play that, though. I'd pay $60 to $75 per volume for that game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool    :cool:"  data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></blockquote>

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