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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 1653196" data-attributes="member: 158">FIRST of all: Let's take breaths before posting: There are some people getting unnecessarily insulting and condescending to fellow posters on this. I can handle closing threads on alignment, or religion, or personal insults - I couldn't handle closing a thread on population densities in people's personal campaigns due to hostility. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Second, I'm racking my brain to understand the disparity. I can understand JGBrowning's contention: If the numbers will be included, why NOT expect them to be resonably plausible? But by the same token, now that they are in stone, and maybe 1% of gamers (being generous) are unhappy with the results, it's equally reasonable to expect that those unhappy will need to house-rule if they plan to use the setting.Third, I still have one question whose answer still confounds me: If one WERE to house-rule these figures in order to make their campaigns more plausible, how many of the players in their groups would even pay attention to the errata, much less read them? I myself am somewhat disappointed that more info was not included on all of the cities on the map (For instance, NOTHING is known of Thaliost, except what is in the Rekkenmark entry). However, the only thing that means is that I'm going to have to develop a city map, statistics, and notable NPC's of the city myself if my PC's would get anywhere near Thrane. It's also disappointing that the Siberys marks was not written up more as a feat than a Prestige class. It doesn't disappoint me enough to never want to use the setting; and I don't take offense if someone says, "Just use the Siberys Mark PrC as-is and give it a try". I will have to house rule it, and will not in the least expect WotC to accomodate me.Now, the issue of NO universal marked main map, I have criticized, because it's a resonable expectation that such a thing which is useful to the majority of players should have been addressed. Thankfully, two awesome fans have stepped up (kildair and sebby, respectively) and solved the problem, but I recognize which battles to pick and choose.If 1 out of every 3 players said, "these population figures and map size are unacceptable" then I would definitely have a different opinion. As-is, it's not worth coming to verbal blows with fellow fans over it.</blockquote>

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