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Message: <blockquote data-quote="atom crash" data-source="post: 4075695" data-attributes="member: 22162">I've been looking at 4E previews of healing surges and second winds and thinking of how to implement a similar version into my 3.5E game. The mechanic in the original post tends to allow the PCs to heal a good portion of their HP after a battle once per day (with the ability to try again, but at a steep DC that only the fighter will have a reasonable chance to make). But now I'm thinking what I'd like to do is allow the PCs to recover a smaller amount of HPs after a battle, but more often per day.I first began playing with a system for determining number of healing surges per day based on level (divided by 4 or 5) plus Con modifier, but I realized I didn't want to make Con affect both number of healing surges per day and the amount of HP recovered. That makes Con too powerful, and it's already a very valuable stat as it stands.So here's what I'm thinking now: number of healing surges per day is determined by type of hit die and it scales by level. Amount of HP recovered by a healing surge is determined by Hit Die and Con modifier. Amount of HP recovered after full rest remains determined by level, Hit Die and Con modifier, as I've posted above.# of healing surges per day: 1st-7th level: 1 + Hit Die/2 (d4=2, d6=3, d8=4, d10=5, d12=6)8th-14th level: 2 + Hit Die/215th-20th level: 3 + Hit Die/2Amount of HP recovered = Hit Die + Con Mod(Multiclassed characters will use the Hit Die of their primary class.)This system will favor fighters more than wizards without penalizing low Con characters.Example: A dwarven fighter8 with an 18 Con will be able to perform 7 healing surges per day, recovering 14 HP each time. A human rogue5/sorceror3 with a 10 Con will be able to perform 5 healing surges per day, recovering 6 HP each time.Using a healing surge or second wind:Once per encounter, a character who has been reduced to less than half max HP can use a standard action to use a second wind (this would use up 1 of the character's available healing surges).When the encounter is over, a character can take a short rest (5 minutes) then use one healing surge to recover lost HP. Once all healing surges have been used for the day, the character will need to take a full rest (8 hours) in order to replenish his healing surges.I still have some concerns about these modifications. I would like for the amount of HP recovered to scale by level. As it stands, a 1st level character would regain his full hit points with a second wind. Maybe I need to change the amount of HP recovered dependent on level and Con modifier. In the examples above, this would give the dwarven fighter8 6 healing surges per day for 12 HP each time, and the human rogue5/sorceror3 5 healing surges per day for 8 HP each time. That dwarf at 1st level would get 5 healing surges for 5 HP each time, but the human rogue at 1st level would get 4 healing surges but for only 1 HP  each time. Hmmm. Maybe amount of HP recovered should be level + Con mod + Hit Die/2.</blockquote>

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