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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6732130" data-attributes="member: 996">That was a sorta blue-sky non-promise when 4e had been killed and the upcoming Next playtest was announced.&nbsp; Pretty obviously dropped it early on, settling for a core game that played mostly like AD&amp;D, with some optional rules and modules to make it run even more like AD&amp;D or more like 3.5, if you wanted.&nbsp; 4e already has proficiency bonuses, so it'd be a simple matter of switching from +1/2 level to +1/5 level, which'd give you the same net +4 over 20 levels as 5e bounded accuracy (extending to +6 over 30 levels).&nbsp; To 'do' 5e even more closely, give the bonus only if you are proficient with the weapon or trained in the skill, and only give it to non-AC defenses your class gets a bonus in (ouch!).&nbsp;&nbsp; You'd also want to do away with magic items, or about halve their bonuses.&nbsp;&nbsp; For monsters, switch from +1/level to +1/3 level.Replace Combat Advantage, and any Power Bonus of +2-5, or circumstancial bonus (typically +2) with Advantage.&nbsp; Replace any penalty with Disadvantage.Number of standard actions would be sheer folly. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; Boosting damage should be fairly straightforward - increase the damage dice or [W].&nbsp;&nbsp; One way of doing 'multiple attacks' in 4e that's less broken &amp; problematic is to make the requisite number of attack rolls.&nbsp; If only one hits, roll damage normally, for additional 'attack' that hits, increment the damage die/[W] by one.&nbsp; So if you're attacking 3 times with a scimitar (d8 + 8, say), and you hit twice, you'd do 2d8+8 to one target, or 1d8+8 each to two targets.&nbsp; If you're using a power rather than a basic attack, and hit two or more targets, one would take the power's full effects, and the others would take a basic attack (with more dice rolled if hit more than once).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6732130, member: 996"] That was a sorta blue-sky non-promise when 4e had been killed and the upcoming Next playtest was announced. Pretty obviously dropped it early on, settling for a core game that played mostly like AD&D, with some optional rules and modules to make it run even more like AD&D or more like 3.5, if you wanted. 4e already has proficiency bonuses, so it'd be a simple matter of switching from +1/2 level to +1/5 level, which'd give you the same net +4 over 20 levels as 5e bounded accuracy (extending to +6 over 30 levels). To 'do' 5e even more closely, give the bonus only if you are proficient with the weapon or trained in the skill, and only give it to non-AC defenses your class gets a bonus in (ouch!). You'd also want to do away with magic items, or about halve their bonuses. For monsters, switch from +1/level to +1/3 level. Replace Combat Advantage, and any Power Bonus of +2-5, or circumstancial bonus (typically +2) with Advantage. Replace any penalty with Disadvantage. Number of standard actions would be sheer folly. ;) Boosting damage should be fairly straightforward - increase the damage dice or [W]. One way of doing 'multiple attacks' in 4e that's less broken & problematic is to make the requisite number of attack rolls. If only one hits, roll damage normally, for additional 'attack' that hits, increment the damage die/[W] by one. So if you're attacking 3 times with a scimitar (d8 + 8, say), and you hit twice, you'd do 2d8+8 to one target, or 1d8+8 each to two targets. If you're using a power rather than a basic attack, and hit two or more targets, one would take the power's full effects, and the others would take a basic attack (with more dice rolled if hit more than once). [/QUOTE]

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